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Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 23 Jun 2013 22:09
by admin
2, as I said. It's an experiment, but I think I will like it as it is. Catalog is not possible. We have enough tweaks. Feierabend.

Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 23 Jun 2013 22:22
by grindax
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Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 23 Jun 2013 23:13
by Marco
Wow, I didn't imagine that even the Computer top node has a +/- box...
Now I made it visible with an extreme value of the padding left tweak of 16
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 24 Jun 2013 06:48
by Filehero
Code: Select all
v12.50.0010 - 2013-06-23 21:27
* Tree: Added 2 hard pixels padding to the top and 5 soft pixels
padding to the left. The latter are tweakable here:
TreePaddingLeft=5
Thanks for implementation.
Even the default value is perfect for me, great!
Cheers,
Filehero
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 24 Jun 2013 08:32
by admin
Marco wrote:Wow, I didn't imagine that even the Computer top node has a +/- box...
Now I made it visible with an extreme value of the padding left tweak of 16
Yes, I was surprised myself! But you always could toggle that node by dbl-click ot enter. So you don't need to have this box visible. (Apart from the utter uselessness of collapsing the computer node.)
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 24 Jun 2013 15:34
by Marco
I see your point, but if I hid the computer toggler then I'd miss the first part of the TPT snake. And anyway, conceptually and graphically, even Computer is a node, so why hiding it.
By the way, setting the tweak value to 22 gives an equal padding both orizontally and vertically.
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 26 Jun 2013 23:34
by raananb
Configuration/Fonts states that for buttons, label & dialogs the font size cannnot be changed.
On my new 15.6" HD sceen (1920x1081, Windows

this restriction makes a lot of items between 1 and 2 mm high, which is extremely small. This is very disturbing with the heading of F12 area and the bottom of the files panel; The main menu fares just a little bit better. The two-finger adjustment (iPad,iPohne style) works fine everywhere excpet for the restricted zones.
As high-definition screens become more popular, XY should adapt to their resolution out of the box. After all, for a technical genious this should be possible.
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 07:20
by admin
raananb wrote:Configuration/Fonts states that for buttons, label & dialogs the font size cannnot be changed.
On my new 15.6" HD sceen (1920x1081, Windows

this restriction makes a lot of items between 1 and 2 mm high, which is extremely small. This is very disturbing with the heading of F12 area and the bottom of the files panel; The main menu fares just a little bit better. The two-finger adjustment (iPad,iPohne style) works fine everywhere excpet for the restricted zones.
As high-definition screens become more popular, XY should adapt to their resolution out of the box. After all, for a technical genious this should be possible.
Could you provide a screenshot illustrating the issue, please?
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 09:08
by raananb
See at
The image you download is looks bigger on a system with lower resolution. The image is 784x548 pixels.
My screen is 19cm high, with 1080 pixels : a pixel represents 190/1080mm; This is the base for calculating the real size of the image and of characters in the lower section.
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 09:42
by admin
Looks the same here (I have the same screen size). It's not possible to enlarge those fonts without breaking the layout. But what you can do is increase the general display size in Windows view settings. Set it to 125% or more.
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 09:52
by raananb
Maybe XY2.bmp, which takes the full height of the screen, will illustrate the issue better.
Remember, it should fit on a screen 19 cm high with no zoom.

Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:13
by admin
Are you saying that you already have set Windows to 125% or more?
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 10:27
by raananb
Yes. It is at 125%
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 27 Jun 2013 18:41
by shadi.lahham
This is a problem that moderns operating systems suffer from.
Screen sizes and resolutions have gotten so high that fonts and icons are too small and difficult to see.
Microsoft and Apple haven't fixed this on an OS level and keep the original size default fonts from the 1990s .. thus applications have to provide for font re-sizing and avoid any issues that may arise from large font sizes.
I have my OS set to 150% (144 dpi) and I can't tell you how many programs break down with font issues.
Almost none of the developers consider this issue or are even aware of it, so it is great to see that there is a discussion about this here and possibly also a solution.
XYplorer already provides font re-sizing in a decent way, but there are some fixed font sizes and that is an issue because it doesn't solve the problem for some of the on screen elements.
I think that an eventual good solution would include the ability to re-size all fonts and maybe even icons.
I would even prefer a blocky 1px->4px solution for resizing icons from 32x32 to 64xt64 than to have icons that are fixed at 32x32.
32x32 icons and 8px fonts are just too small to see on a 2560x1440 sized screen.
Re: Better visual design and visual options
Posted: 28 Jun 2013 15:01
by admin
raananb wrote:Yes. It is at 125%
I tested 150% (to really see what's going on) and generally the font sizes seem to auto-adjust alright just as I expected it:

- 150percent.png (93.28 KiB) Viewed 2399 times
I see issues in the address bar (vertical text position), in the statusbar (sections too small), and 3 lines in the IP are slightly too small. This will be fixed soon.
I cannot explain why the fonts stay small in your system.