XYplorer Beta Club

I have played a lil bit: => XYplorer 7.80.chm [see below for an zipped version]

It far away from being perfect (f.ex. the topics are not sorted correctly yet)
but i can search inside an topic which helps me a lot.

Stefan wrote:I have played a lil bit: => XYplorer 7.80.chm

It far away from being perfect (f.ex. the topics are not sorted correctly yet)
but i can search inside an topic which helps me a lot.

I'd like to try it but it does not work here. I can open the file but I can see no HTML, instead it shows what you see when your browser cannot reach a page.

Stefan wrote:I have played a lil bit: => XYplorer 7.80.chm

I DL'd it and it seems to work here...there are some minor formatting things like doubled topics on top of right side, but looks ok in general.

Update: Ok, now maybe I see what Don was seeing...that HTML formatting doesn't seem to be effective... No hyperlinks, etc.

admin wrote:I'd like to try it but it does not work here. I can open the file but I can see no HTML, instead it shows what you see when your browser cannot reach a page.

I saw that at first, then used SysInternal's streams command to remove the Zone.Identifier stream and it worked fine.

Would be nice if XY had native support for working with ADS.

Thats interesting, downloading with FireFox the file have no ADS, only dl with iE i saw this stream.
When i download with iE i see the same effect as Don.
(I know an registry item which could be set to allow to open such files from other recurses then local too, i think this could be related)

Thank you TheQwerty to remind me on ADS. read...
more...

An solution for iE downloaders could be if i provide an zipped version of this file

Stefan wrote:Thats interesting, downloading with FireFox the file have no ADS, only dl with iE i saw this stream.
When i download with iE i see the same effect as Don.
(I know an registry item which could be set to allow to open such files from other recurses then local too, i think this could be related)

Thank you TheQwerty to remind me on ADS. read more...

An solution for iE downloaders could be if i provide an zipped version of this file

Okay, this one works fine. Pity that it completely lacks any HTML formatting (at least here).

Better?
Edit:
arrrg, now i have only half of the content

Maybe Don would provide the current help sources?

Stefan wrote:Better?

XYplorer_7.80.ZIP

Edit:
arrrg, now i have only half of the content

Maybe Don would provide the current help sources?

No problem, here: http://www.xyplorer.com/download/XYHelp ... 081126.zip

Thanks, I've done this with MS HTML Help Workshop
BTW,I've found an guide here:
http://www.help-info.de/de/Help_Info_Wi ... erting.htm
http://www.help-info.de/

i think i have to work on the layout?

ABC Amber HLP Converter does an fine conversion from HLP to CHM as my last post shows, but i got only an half of the whole content.
Maybe an limitation of the trial version?

ABC Amber Text Converter drop the page title and wrote Page X instead :-( but keep the layout quite well, aside those ghost footnotes?


I investigate more...

Just FYI: I've been trying countless Help Authoring Tools for years without success. I was finally ready to pay up to 500 Euros for a tool that works, but even at that price I did not find anything.

Definition of "tool that works":
- Converts my HLP sources to CHM while keeping the layout.
- No need of manual polishing.
- Good HTML code quality.
- Independence from the tool (in case I later want to change): no proprietary format of sources.

admin wrote:Just FYI: I've been trying countless Help Authoring Tools for years without success. I was finally ready to pay up to 500 Euros for a tool that works, but even at that price I did not find anything.

Definition of "tool that works":
- Converts my HLP sources to CHM while keeping the layout.
- No need of manual polishing.
- Good HTML code quality.
- Independence from the tool (in case I later want to change): no proprietary format of sources.

The converters seams all to be not that good.
Even that $500 H&M v5 have problems to auto convert anchor links correctly

This is the best i could do right now:
http://rapidshare.de/files/41001423/XYp ... F.zip.html

I had to do manually work, f.ex. the links to the anchors on the "Scripting Commands Reference" page
must be modified since they come from an single-page document (.RTF file) and an CHM is an multi HTML-files document.
So i had to tell H&M that the anchors are on the very same side inside the CHM.
(form: href="anchor" ---to: href="this doc" anchor="anchor") :-(
(to my aid there is an XML output which i could s&r with VIM)


I guess the best is to write the help in such an authoring tool itself instead of use an RTF and HLP file first ?
I imagine one could copy and paste the pages from the RTF to topics inside such an tool?


If i could "help" you again, just let me know... (will still test from time to time)

On complain I often formulate about help files is about print screen definition. It is usually way to low. ADSL is more than common, file server are cheap/free, HDD have greatly increased in capacity as CPU in power, but still most of the PDF are made with a ridiculous low resolution and terrible image quality.

unoentremil wrote:I must say that I still prefer the old classic help format by far.

It's more practical/useful. For me, it's easier to find the most relevant information (if it's there, of course).

I wouldn't care about changing it. It works, and works better that any other format, IMO.

No problem, I did not pay 500$ for my Help authoring tool for nothing:
http://www.xyplorer.com/download/XYplorerHLP.zip

500$ for my Help authoring tool

Which is?

Help & Manual