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Posted: 08 Sep 2007 10:12
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote: Some of the other suggestions made here (thanks to all of you!) will lead to growing mountains of documentation -- that's not what I want.
It may not be what you want (or wish to create yourself), but if available, can make new users (and even old users) more comfortable with the product...
Sorry, I should have said: "that's not what I want
here and now" (I'm currently mentally involved in just Tips of the day... -- you'll some soon... )
searching the wiki
Posted: 08 Sep 2007 10:45
by panorama
The info is there, it's finding it when you need it that is not always easy. I have not always had the best of luck using the search tool on the wiki. That's in part because I'm clueless, no doubt, BUT is there a way to optimize the search tool? It often seems to come up with reams of matches that aren't related to what I need. Then I come bug you on the forum with my silly questions
Posted: 08 Sep 2007 23:10
by jacky
graham wrote:Lets face it the XYWiki is a very good and clear user guide but that only exists, I suspect, because of the need to clarify the understanding of these many features.
I wouldn't put it that way. It's been created as a way to have one source of documentation regarding XY that aims to be the most complete possible, and up to date, without the need for Don to spend any time working on it so he can focus on other things, like coding for us
But it's definitely not like XY used to lack some Help (in any way)
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 13:36
by ugus
Donald,
Thanks for the very nice Tip of day feature! It's looking great!
Maybe an addition to it could be to add a tag for "categories", making it easy to filter out a certain category if this file should contain many, many entries...
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 14:16
by admin
ugus wrote:Donald,
Thanks for the very nice Tip of day feature! It's looking great!
Maybe an addition to it could be to add a tag for "categories", making it easy to filter out a certain category if this file should contain many, many entries...
Something like keywords is already planned. But let's first see how far the simple version reaches.
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 15:35
by j_c_hallgren
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A new version of this file will be provided irregularly and can be downloaded from the website.
You may edit this file to add your own tips.
So IF a user has customized their tips (maybe to convert langauge or add a special one), how would they best handle an update from you? I haven't yet looked at the file, but just based on release notes, I wondered about this...as a user wouldn't want to lose their customizations but would likely want the update.
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 15:43
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Code: Select all
A new version of this file will be provided irregularly and can be downloaded from the website.
You may edit this file to add your own tips.
So IF a user has customized their tips (maybe to convert langauge or add a special one), how would they best handle an update from you? I haven't yet looked at the file, but just based on release notes, I wondered about this...as a user wouldn't want to lose their customizations but would likely want the update.
Once you customize you are out of the updates deal.
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 16:25
by graham
Admin: -
You may edit this file to add your own tips. The syntax for the
data is explained inside the file. Inside each tip all HTML tags
are allowed (including links and references to remote resources).
This, of course, means you can have the tips in your language!
Simply translate them or have them translated.
Once you customize you are out of the updates deal.
I too like the clean look of the tips - very good.
To enable users to add their own, could this be done by having a user usertipfile.htm file along side the tipoftheday.htm file.
Once a new feature is added id grows and grows..........
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 16:59
by admin
graham wrote:Admin: -
You may edit this file to add your own tips. The syntax for the
data is explained inside the file. Inside each tip all HTML tags
are allowed (including links and references to remote resources).
This, of course, means you can have the tips in your language!
Simply translate them or have them translated.
Once you customize you are out of the updates deal.
I too like the clean look of the tips - very good.
To enable users to add their own, could this be done by having a user usertipfile.htm file along side the tipoftheday.htm file.
I'll keep it simple. If a user is able to customize this file, he is also able to update it based on a new download version. And: If a user is able to customize this file, he's probably not a newbie, so he does it for the benefit of others. Whatever, it's not my business. Somebody may write an XYplorerTipofthedayUpdater.exe if he likes!
BTW, I have enough to do adding some tips now...
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 16:59
by serendipity
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Added "Tip of the Day" functionality (Shift+F1)
Shift+F1 doesnt work here, neither does Pg+up and down. Is it just me?
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 17:00
by admin
serendipity wrote:Code: Select all
Added "Tip of the Day" functionality (Shift+F1)
Shift+F1 doesnt work here, neither does Pg+up and down. Is it just me?
As always, you have to reset/default the KS in CKS.
But Pg+up and down should work!
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 17:11
by serendipity
admin wrote:As always, you have to reset/default the KS in CKS.
But Pg+up and down should work!
As always, i forgot to do exactly that. Pg+up works now, but I am sure it did not work before. strange, but nevermind.
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 18:01
by admin
serendipity wrote:admin wrote:As always, you have to reset/default the KS in CKS.
But Pg+up and down should work!
As always, i forgot to do exactly that. Pg+up works now, but I am sure it did not work before. strange, but nevermind.
Yep, I know now: it does not work when the tip itself has the focus (IOW: the browser control steals the input focus).
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 18:39
by admin
graham wrote:To enable users to add their own, could this be done by having a user usertipfile.htm file along side the tipoftheday.htm file.
I came to like that idea. Why not!? So I added it:
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+ Menu Help | Tip of the Day...: You now can have another file
called "tipoftheday_user.htm" besides "tipoftheday.htm". The idea
is that you can collect and keep your own private custom tips in
the file, without having them overwritten when the official file
"tipoftheday.htm" is updated.
You can also design a custom layout for the tips using this file:
if a file "tipoftheday_user.htm" exists in the application path,
then it will be used as HTML template for the Tips of the Day. Of
course, this user file must have the same basic format as the
official file.
Posted: 09 Sep 2007 21:06
by ugus
admin wrote:graham wrote:To enable users to add their own, could this be done by having a user usertipfile.htm file along side the tipoftheday.htm file.
I came to like that idea. Why not!? So I added it:
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+ Menu Help | Tip of the Day...: You now can have another file
called "tipoftheday_user.htm" besides "tipoftheday.htm". The idea
is that you can collect and keep your own private custom tips in
the file, without having them overwritten when the official file
"tipoftheday.htm" is updated.
You can also design a custom layout for the tips using this file:
if a file "tipoftheday_user.htm" exists in the application path,
then it will be used as HTML template for the Tips of the Day. Of
course, this user file must have the same basic format as the
official file.
Great
