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admin wrote:Next version will be better...

Next Version *is* better
Can drop from IZArc to XY!
And also vice versa: drop from XY to IZArc I never tried this before!

I'm really begeistert

PeterH wrote:Can drop from IZArc to XY!
And also vice versa: drop from XY to IZArc I never tried this before!
I'm really begeistert

The same with Squeez! Dropping in both directions without problems.

Thank you, Don. Great work!

I agree that XYPlorer doesn't need WinZip/7-Zip archive manager-level functionality, but I was disappointed to see "Not a previewed format" in the Preview pane.

Just a listing of the contained filenames would be quite helpful - I'm often too impatient to bring up the WinZip/7-zip UI to extract an archive, prefering instead to use the context menu extension, and this kind of preview would let me know the target root directory I need to extract to.

Also, in Windows Explorer the tooltip on archive files also enumerates the first 2 or 3 contained files -- I don't know if this is built-in Explorer functionality, a feature of WinZip or 7-Zip, or from some other utility I installed that looked shiny (I'm a bit of a utility whore, as I would suspect many XYPlorer users are...), but I sure do miss it in XYPlorer...

Thanks for everything else so far - just got it for Xmas and love it!

Using NirSoft's ShellExView utility, I see that the extension I mentioned in my previous post is provided by WinZip in its WZSHLSTB.DLL - it's an "InfoTip Handler" registered with .zip files, CLASID {E0D79307-84BE-11CE-9641-444553540000}.

WinZip No InfoTip Handler WinZip Shell Extension DLL 4.1 (32-bit) WinZip WinZip Computing, Inc. No No No C:\PROGRA~1\WINZIP\WZSHLSTB.DLL {E0D79307-84BE-11CE-9641-444553540000} 8/28/2006 2:38:30 PM 8/28/2007 11:39:49 AM No .zip

Anyhow, it'd be great to have it or equivalent functionality in XYPlorer.

Thanks again!

inghamc wrote:Just a listing of the contained filenames would be quite helpful.

Also, in Windows Explorer the tooltip on archive files also enumerates the first 2 or 3 contained files --

Thanks for everything else so far - just got it for Xmas and love it!

Hi and welcome to the XY world!

I don't think you'll find too many who'd not agree with your first point, as that's one of the main reasons why I keep a Win Expl session going most of the time also.

I've seen Win Expl show as many as 20+ files via tooltips...not sure what max is.

I'm sure you'll love XY even more once you really get to know it, and be sure to visit here daily to keep current and to contribute your ideas.

inghamc wrote: Just a listing of the contained filenames would be quite helpful - ...

Same here.

inghamc wrote:Anyhow, it'd be great to have it or equivalent functionality in XYPlorer.

Yep, I agree. I will research how the Info Tip trick is done.

Welcome to the club!

Don

As much as I would love to have files appear in the preview, it would also frustrate me that I can't drag those files out (or drag others in). If you're going to do this "preview" then I suggest it doesn't look like a file listing, but instead looking like a text list of the files in the archive.

P.S. You know how you wanted an example of how to integrate full ZIP functionality into XY Don? Well, a drag-and-drop-able preview pane would do it

lukescammell wrote:As much as I would love to have files appear in the preview, it would also frustrate me that I can't drag those files out (or drag others in).

That may be the case for others also, but for me and a few others (I think), just knowing which ZIP file contains the desired file (or what it may contain) so that we can open it with our zip pgrm would help out considerably! I don't recall ever doing a D&D with a zip file...I've always used either the context menu to add or opened the zip and then added/extracted...but then again, I rarely D&D "normal" files either.

Right now, as stated before, I keep a Win Expl session open also most of the time...for a couple of reasons, among them being the need to tooltip zip files, and also to install a new vers of XY, etc., so having the ability to at least see what may lurk within a zip file within XY would be one less thing I'd need Win Expl for.

Just an idea to think about, here described for archive files, but maybe usable for others, too. It's a kind of customizable plugin-support of XY.

If XY "Previews" a known archive, lets say a .zip, it could call a user-supplied .bat file, or create & execute one from a template. This calls an external utility (for example IZArc Commandline Interface) to generate a list of contents to another file -and then display the contents of this file as Preview. So the Preview of an archive would be it's directory listing!
For a .zip as example, the associated file could be stored as \plugin\preview\zip.bat (or .template or whatever) in a subdirectory of XY.
For .bat XY has to supply neccessary info (names of .zip and of list-file) as parameters, for a template it maybe would be possible even to supply data *to* XY, as XY reads it before executing.

Even more possibilities for scripting: a called template even could pack or unpack archives, or whatever. Here too it would be fine to display generated output in the Preview-Window.

In global I think these are 2 functions:
- calling external programs in pre-definable way
- returning output from there to inside XY
Both together is "integrating external functions".

Must stop me now - what do you think?

PeterH wrote:Must stop me now - what do you think?

Thanks, sounds quite inspired!

But: Overflow here right now. May others discuss it. I won't have time for thinking about this before a lot of other things are done.

No Problem, don't need it today. Tomorrow will do

OK, I always see, what *I* would like to be integrated in XY - but know, that you have enough to do "for the next days". But a part of the "plugin"-idea is: the posibility to integrate existing functions (like .zip-display) into XY. Seen from this point I think, it could *save* you a lot of time?

But no questions: to be able to be a good and flexible solution, it's necessary to think a bit about it...

j_c_hallgren wrote:I don't recall ever doing a D&D with a zip file... ...but then again, I rarely D&D "normal" files either.

That's because touchpads suck for any kind of continuous mouse movement, such as dragging

PeterH wrote:If XY "Previews" a known archive, lets say a .zip, it could call a user-supplied .bat file, or create & execute one from a template.
...
Even more possibilities for scripting: a called template even could pack or unpack archives, or whatever. Here too it would be fine to display generated output in the Preview-Window.

Combine this with a drop-stack and your cooking

I can live with using 7-Zip for zip files. But is there a way to detect the default Zip manager and add the Zip options on the right-click menu?

Thanks.

stcraig wrote:I can live with using 7-Zip for zip files. But is there a way to detect the default Zip manager and add the Zip options on the right-click menu?

Thanks.

Hi! Your zip app should register itself to appear in the right-click menu. Mine does (WinZip).