Easier breadcrumbs for mouse-centric users?

[lukescammell]

Noob question incoming... what exactly is the tab header and where is it? I've tried clicking all over the tab with the right mouse button and I don't get the breadcrumbs...

[jacky]

Noob question incoming... what exactly is the tab header and where is it? I've tried clicking all over the tab with the right mouse button and I don't get the breadcrumbs...

Tabs (tab headers) are the list of all opened tabs, with an icon & their location or title if any. It's usually above the Tree and List, with Address Bar & Toolbar (exact position may vary depending on your Layout.
Note that you might have it hidden, if so use menu Window/Show Tabs to enable it.

And now a little wish for me: when I get the breadcrumb of another tab, could that folder of that tab's location not be disabled. Make sure usually cause don't make much sense to ge where we already are, but it'd be useful here to get the current tab to another tab's location quick!

[surrender]

You have to right-click on the icons of the tabs (not just anywhere on the tab) for the breadcrumbs to pop up. I guess this is what you asked.

[lukescammell]

Didn't work for me on 0008, so I upgraded to 0010. Works now

[admin]

And now a little wish for me: when I get the breadcrumb of another tab, could that folder of that tab's location not be disabled. Make sure usually cause don't make much sense to ge where we already are, but it'd be useful here to get the current tab to another tab's location quick!

But I did exactly that in 0010, didn't I?

[jacky]

But I did exactly that in 0010, didn't I?

No but you even removed the check mark! And yeah sorry about that, i was actually still on 0008

[j_c_hallgren]

but you even removed the check mark!

I'll agree to that razz! I'd still like to see that indicator of which one is current, especially when I've gone up the tree...as the BC pop-up obscures the tab header in most all cases..

[admin]

but you even removed the check mark!

I'll agree to that razz! I'd still like to see that indicator of which one is current, especially when I've gone up the tree...as the BC pop-up obscures the tab header in most all cases..

The checkmark+disabled state of any breadcrumb relates to the current path of the current tab which is also the path/tab that is going to change when you use the BC. What's the problem?

[j_c_hallgren]

And now a little wish for me: when I get the breadcrumb of another tab, could that folder of that tab's location not be disabled. Make sure usually cause don't make much sense to ge where we already are, but it'd be useful here to get the current tab to another tab's location quick!

This is the basis for the but it appears there is another minor issue related to it also in curr .10 vers...

The easiest/basic flow to see the situation is:
1) Open two new tabs and navigate to totally distinct and isolated folders
2) When tab #2 has focus, invoke BC using tab #1 icon...

Issue "A" = The current loc on an inactive tab will not be check-marked so harder to spot/see which is current, but it IS marked on tab #2 (active tab) as expected...plus as BC overlays inactive tab header, further obscuring it, thus some visual indicator (checkmark) is needed.

3) Click on a folder in tab #1 BC, which makes tab #2 point to a new loc...this is how jacky was copying tabs as above
4) Issue "B" = tab #1's BC now shows BC for tab #2, instead of its own BC, even though its location has NOT changed..

[jacky]

The checkmark+disabled state of any breadcrumb relates to the current path of the current tab which is also the path/tab that is going to change when you use the BC. What's the problem?

Yeah that we know, but when poping up the Breadcrumb of another tab than current, you've removed both check & disable, while only the disable would have been just enough, as we now could want to change to that location.

Just because one might wanna know on what location the tab the breadcrumb belongs to is, and remember that the breadcrumb has both an up & down part, so the check was actually a nice indicator even on another tab's breadcrumb!

Edit: Err, I went too fast/misread, and yeah actually the check/disable relates to the current tab's location as you mentionned, when it'd be better if it related to the tab's the breadcrumb belong to location.
As I see jc mentionned, when poping up a BC on another tab, we would not expect, I think, to have our current tab's location being shown (checked) on that BC, but the tab's location we got the BC of!

In other words:
- the disable should relate to the current tab's location, as it does now
- but the check should relate to the Tab's location the BC belongs to

[admin]

4) Issue "B" = tab #1's BC now shows BC for tab #2, instead of its own BC, even though its location has NOT changed..

Yes, BC is drawn from the *one* history of moving around, not tabwise.

[admin]

In other words:
- the disable should relate to the current tab's location, as it does now
- but the check should relate to the Tab's location the BC belongs to

Okay, you and jc seem to be so sure about this, I count it as a 2:1 victory for you

[j_c_hallgren]

4) Issue "B" = tab #1's BC now shows BC for tab #2, instead of its own BC, even though its location has NOT changed..

Yes, BC is drawn from the *one* history of moving around, not tabwise.

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v5.50.0008 - 06.01.07 12:26 
    + Tab headers: now, when you right-click the icon in any tab-header, 
      the breadcrumb menu of that tab's location is popped up at your 
      mouse cursor. Cool. But even cooler: when you select a path 
      portion in that breadcrumb menu then the location of the *current 
      tab* is changed accordingly. So you can "inject" locations from 
      other tabs into your current tab! 

Seems to me that we have a slight conflict here! Why should the BC of source tab for an "injected" tab be changed to BC of target tab? Since they were different before the "inject" and matched EACH tabs hierarchy...

In the code desc, you say that BC of any tab relates to that tab, and I would expect that to remain, no matter what happens to another tab...and I had to read above code a couple of times before I followed it, so that's why I posted a scenario to clarify it...

[admin]

4) Issue "B" = tab #1's BC now shows BC for tab #2, instead of its own BC, even though its location has NOT changed..

Yes, BC is drawn from the *one* history of moving around, not tabwise.

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v5.50.0008 - 06.01.07 12:26 
    + Tab headers: now, when you right-click the icon in any tab-header, 
      the breadcrumb menu of that tab's location is popped up at your 
      mouse cursor. Cool. But even cooler: when you select a path 
      portion in that breadcrumb menu then the location of the *current 
      tab* is changed accordingly. So you can "inject" locations from 
      other tabs into your current tab! 

Seems to me that we have a slight conflict here! Why should the BC of source tab for an "injected" tab be changed to BC of target tab? Since they were different before the "inject" and matched EACH tabs hierarchy...

In the code desc, you say that BC of any tab relates to that tab, and I would expect that to remain, no matter what happens to another tab...and I had to read above code a couple of times before I followed it, so that's why I posted a scenario to clarify it...

BC is made from a path based on history. It does not know about tabs.

[j_c_hallgren]

BC is made from a path based on history. It does not know about tabs.

Now I'm getting a bit confused...because that's not what I'm seeing happening...I've got three tabs open at moment, and here's what I've got in headers (folder names condensed):

Tab #1: C:\My Music\Sw
Tab #2: C:\IN\PR
Tab #3: C:\Pgm Files\XY
And tab #3 is the one with focus...

Now when I right-click on these tab icons, I see this for BC:
Tab #1:
C:\My Music
C:\My Music\Sw

Tab #2:
C:\IN\
C:\IN\PR
C:\IN\PR\PF
C:\IN\PR\PF\Hi

Tab #3:
C:\Pgm Files
C:\Pgm Files\XY <- This one is checked and disabled
C:\Pgm Files\XY\Thb
...of course, all three BC's have "My Computer" and "C:" above these...

So if XY doesn't know about tabs for BC, why does each tab's BC show only the parts of hierarchy related to that tab?