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Hi’

Taking my chances again, especially since you’re changing safety belts…

I use Paper Folders all the time really (for searches), and I always face its —for me— unexpected and bothersome deletion behavior.

 • Details:

› DEL: Remove item from PF with dialog
   ✔
› Shift + DEL: idem? - Remove item from PF with dialog
   ✖  Someone using this KS expects it to be "brutal" (since it’s usually for "No recycle")
› Ctrl + DEL: Delete unlocked item with prompt
   ✔/✖  Looks like the behavior of the Nuke with "skipping locked files", except that it’s doesn’t use Nuke settings?

› Nuke button with "Skipping locked OFF" + "Confirm ON": Remove item from PF with dialog
   ✖  We’re talking about a "Nuke" here… So deletion is surely expected
› Nuke button with "Skipping locked OFF" + "Confirm OFF": idem? - Remove item from PF with dialog
   ✖  Even weirder… still no deletion but still a confirmation?
› Nuke button with "Skipping locked ON" + "Confirm OFF": Delete item without dialog
   ✔
› Nuke button with "Skipping locked ON" + "Confirm ON": idem? - Delete item without dialog
   ✖ Wooops… I personally don’t mind, but bad surprise for those expecting the confirmation prompt

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IMHO, If I may be so bold, here’s what I think would probably be expected:

› DEL: Remove item from PF - dialog always [default]
› Shift + DEL: Delete item - dialog if user setting "Confirm Delete" ON
› Ctrl + DEL: Nuke behavior (based on Nuke settings), why not, since it is what it kind of looks like already

And Nuke should behave exactly as usual:
   "Skipping locked" only having its expected effect about locked files
   Deletion confirmation only being based on its own setting

› Nuke + "Confirm ON": Delete item with dialog
› Nuke + "Confirm OFF": Delete item without dialog

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   Well, I hope it makes sense… Especially the "Shift+DEL" and the Nuke behavior; personally I just discovered a few weeks ago that Nuke worked if "Skipping locked" was ON (I have it OFF 99% of the time).

Thanks for your attention,
Flux

Thanks, makes sense.

1) I changed the effect of Shift + DEL in a PF: now it deletes the file (permanently).
2) I changed the effect of the Nuke button ina PF: now it deletes the file from the system, not (just) from the PF.

How did you enter those Tick symbols???

Hi’

admin wrote:1) I changed the effect of Shift + DEL in a PF: now it deletes the file (permanently).
2) I changed the effect of the Nuke button ina PF: now it deletes the file from the system, not (just) from the PF.

Great!
Precious gain of time (at least for me), thanks!

Have a nice day,
Flux

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admin wrote:How did you enter those Tick symbols???

 ⏵ TLDR; I originally gathered my (huge list of) symbols here:
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm

 ⏵ But in truth (long story short):
   → I don’t copy/paste them of course. Having to write in different languages (and pay attention to typography), I had to switch between keyboard layouts often. Probably good for touch-typing muscle-memory but really tedious.

   → So I finally crafted my own keyboard layout to get the most efficient disposition: kind of a very distant relative of Dvorak/Colemak on steroids, focused on bi⁺lingual + coding + typography; and with regular KS!
      › Note to whom it might interest: locally I went with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator (MSKLC), and for portability with Portable Keyboard Layout (PKL) (plus a small custom Autohotkey script for advanced features in both cases).

   → I couldn’t resist giving access (via quick KS or deadkeys) to lots of symbols—“Non   breaking      space” by itself being not only typographically necessary but also generally invaluable!

   → Well, my fingers had to re-learn an entirely different disposition, but it was really worth it!

   ⇒ Be it for coding, writing casually or ‘properly’, it feels soooo much better now, fingers flowing, everything seemlessly glued together…       

   ☺

DIY keyboard, cool!

→ So I finally crafted my own keyboard layout to get the most efficient disposition: kind of a very distant relative of Dvorak/Colemak on steroids, focused on bi⁺lingual + coding + typography; and with regular KS!
› Note to whom it might interest: locally I went with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator (MSKLC), and for portability with Portable Keyboard Layout (PKL) (plus a small custom Autohotkey script for advanced features in both cases).

Care to share it? I'm still waiting for my keyboardio (though it seems I will get it this year *cheer*) and I thought I'd switch to Colemak once I get it but regular keyboard shortcuts sounds very nice

admin wrote:I'm still waiting for my keyboardio (though it seems I will get it this year *cheer*)

   Wow, looks like a nice’n sturdy beast!
   You’ll have to post some feedback about it…

highend wrote:I thought I'd switch to Colemak once I get it but regular keyboard shortcuts sounds very nice

   Well, the lack of regular KS in alternate keyboard layouts is obviously understandable, but it’s not viable IMHO, and it’s a major pitfall that further hinders any incentive to adopt such layouts. Besides, the argument “It’s the softs which need to adapt: just change their KS” is wishful thinking (and shortsightedness): it’s fine… only as long as you stick to a couple of office apps.

highend wrote:Care to share it?

   Sure. Too specific to post it here though (check your PM).

   Last OT note: Whatever the keyboard layout, remapping CapsLock as a modifier (through AutoHotkey mini-script) is a killer feature per se (getting access e.g. to arrows, Ctrl/Shift/Esc/Backspace… without having to move your hands — [oh, Shift+Space as non-breaking space too, since MSKLC doesn’t accept it.].)

   Well, on this note, I’ll stop disrupting this thread and let it get back to its own papers…

Have a nice day,
Flux