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Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 29 May 2025 16:44
by klownboy
I'm kind of surprised that you can't reproduce that. It happens every time for me. No, it's not a big deal, only annoying. Any kind of simple editing in the Edit dialog causes me to have to hit OK twice on the main Manage User-defined Commands dialog. I've disabled anything else like AHK that could potentially affect XY. Not a biggie though.

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 29 May 2025 16:59
by admin
Ah yes, I see it now. The problem is that the focus goes astray after closing the Edit dialog. That's another one for Wayne.

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 29 May 2025 18:51
by klownboy
admin wrote: 29 May 2025 16:59 Ah yes, I see it now. The problem is that the focus goes astray after closing the Edit dialog. That's another one for Wayne.
That makes sense, in that, if I click anywhere in the box then hit OK, it works. Thanks.

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 30 May 2025 16:37
by admin
The dongle aka eToken from DigiCert finally arrived, 4 weeks too late. Okay, shit happens. But trouble does not end here. Look at the installation instructions from hell:
https://knowledge.digicert.com/solution ... ded-etoken

Right at the beginning it gets weird:
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I don't like this kind of nonsense. I contacted support (better safe than sorry — that dongle costs 1,500 euros), but I only received an automated response (AI). It was not helpful. They just rephrased my questions. I asked for a human. They promised me one. But will the human appear before the weekend? Sigh. Sorry, I'm bored.

PS: Why is this important here? Without a certificate I cannot publish anything. Not VB, not TB, not 32-bit, not 64-bit.

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 30 May 2025 17:07
by highend
I've switched to "Microsoft Azure Trusted Signing" after my old certificate ran out

Setting it up in the first place is tricky but I got my certificate after about 30 minutes (which took me more than 3 weeks with the old certificate provider^^)
I don't need a hardware token (but i-net instead)
The thing does only cost 11,01 Euro / month
Quota: 5000 signings / month, above the limit 0,5 Cent per each

Maybe it's not for everyone but I like it :tup:

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 30 May 2025 17:08
by admin
Thanks for the tip! :tup:

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 16:14
by admin
That was definitely my last gig with DigiCert. After 2 hours of working through a chaotic heap of docs it turns out the initialization code they created for me is "invalid, has already been used, or has expired". And no human support on weekends. :blackstorm:

If I simply give DigiCert the boot and switch to Microsoft Azure Trusted Signing, how long would it take before I could sign my app again?

(By i-net you mean internet, right?)

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 16:44
by highend
i-net = internet, yeah

The only information I needed to supply iirc was an invoice (.pdf) for my domain (your domain + 2 e-mail addresses for it need to be supplied during the registration process anyway) and as I said, it took only 30 minutes to get the certificate.
The validation is through AI so in my case no human interaction was necessary and iirc I did it on a weekend

I followed this guide to the point to register everything: https://melatonin.dev/blog/code-signing ... d-signing/

To use it, you have to setup signtool afterwards...
Required packages:
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0
https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsof ... BuildTools
https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsof ... ing.Client

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 16:50
by admin
Did you look at that guide recently?
As of April 2025, Trusted Signing is restricted to US or Canadian businesses with more than 3 years history.
Hm. :om:

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 17:00
by highend
No I didn't, I had mine registered several months ago

Seems you have to live with your current one until the general availability...

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 17:10
by admin
Pity. Thanks anyway!

In the meantime, a DigiCert support human approached me with a solution to my initialization code problem: I should reissue my certificate. The cost is 114 EUR. (Lacking a fitting icon to insert... :blackstorm: )

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 31 May 2025 17:15
by highend
Lack of :blackstorm: icons hindered me to comment your "the hardware token did cost 1500 €"...

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 01 Jun 2025 10:00
by admin
News from DigiCert:
The initialization code has expired because the order was approved on 2025-04-23. More than 30 days.
They are not even aware that the dongle arrived only on 2025-05-30 (their fault), and now they are asking me for an additional 114 EUR to make it work. What a disaster of an experience with the "leading provider of digital trust"!

Sorry, but I need to vent a little to feel better about my business practically coming to a halt because of DigiCert's incompetence.

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 01 Jun 2025 10:12
by highend
And they don't change their mind about the fee when they are reminded that it took over 30 days to receive the necessary hardware? I'm glad that I don't have to deal with a certificate dealer that requires me to use a hardware token^^

Re: +++ BREAKING NEWS: XYplorer goes twinBASIC +++

Posted: 01 Jun 2025 10:40
by admin
Okay, now I made a mistake. I overlooked the “Use existing token” option, which allows you to request a new initialization code free of charge. :oops: Now I've requested a new code and am waiting again... :roll: