XYplorer Beta Club

GreetingsFromPoland wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 14:03 at this time, i have zero interest in the TB version as i feel it will be a bottleneck in future fixes, improvements and new features (since we'll also have to rely on the TB team).

This does not make much sense. VB has been dead for decades, and XY has been and is still thriving all the time.

The license is the same for VB and TB.

GreetingsFromPoland wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 14:03... at this time, i have zero interest in the TB version as i feel it will be a bottleneck in future fixes, improvements and new features (since we'll also have to rely on the TB team)...

twinBASIC hasn't really been explained to us here, but I did watch a little youtube talk covering its goals.

From my understanding, Wayne (the TB developer and a prolific name in the VB world) is basically re-creating the entire VB language method-by-method for 100% backwards compatibiliy with existing programs (such as XY). Our little bug reports are currently going towards realizing that goal. Wayne takes the feedback, applies the fix, and then validates it with unit tests.

Once 100% compatability is achieved, TB should be eqivalent to the current state of VB as far as development is concerned. Therefore, at that point, using TB won't be any different from using VB.

After 100% compatibility, Wayne's plan is to further expand TB past VB to allow for things such as 64bit, cross-platform, multi-threading, many more developer options, and other modern features that VB never got. These new features are what will allow Don to clean-up the XY voodo-code that only exists to work-around the VB limitations.

To sum it up, I believe that means after the 100% milestone, it's all uphill from there for TB! (and therefore XY )

Exactly!

However, I sometimes ride my bike, so I prefer downhill to uphill.

Thank you! ...to WirlyWirly for summing up the scope and direction of this important milestone of development for a lot of folks on the sidelines cheering on Don and Wayne that form the silent herd watching all this unfold, bit by bit. XY is the 'Go To' file manager for so many of us for so long. Pretty exciting for the future of it.

I'm not positive this hasn't been mentioned before, but I noticed the other day that if I create a shortcut of an exe file and right drag the newly created shortcut to the Windows taskbar, I can create the taskbar button using the old XYplorer VB version but can not using the new XYplorerTB version. I repeated this a few times...just info.

Wayne knows about some drag and drop issues. Let's see what the next fixes will bring.

New version of XYplorer compiled with twinBASIC BETA 759 (32-bit still):

XYplorerTB.exe, v27.00.0407, digitally signed, zipped

+ Various fixes.

There will be glitches, there will be bugs. Work in progress.

Unfortunately still no luck with drag and drop on v27.00.0407 for the issues I previously reported.

admin wrote: ↑07 May 2025 17:56 New version of XYplorer compiled with twinBASIC BETA 759 (32-bit still):

XYplorerTB.exe, v27.00.0407, digitally signed, zipped

+ Various fixes.

There will be glitches, there will be bugs. Work in progress.

There is a version problem.
The actual VB version is higher than the new TB version.
This gives a downgrading message on the TB version
and later an info message about a new version, starting the actual VB version.

I haven't given the TB version a go yet but would expect them to be used independently from each other in separate folders, without attempts to upgrade from either branch to the other.

klownboy wrote: ↑08 May 2025 14:25 Unfortunately still no luck with drag and drop on v27.00.0407 for the issues I previously reported.

That's still in the making.

RalphM wrote: ↑08 May 2025 15:16 I haven't given the TB version a go yet but would expect them to be used independently from each other in separate folders, without attempts to upgrade from either branch to the other.

Yes, I agree, because of the issues Horst mentioned, I keep the TB version in a separate folder.

There is no need for a separate folder for the TB version.
It's a much better test to see what I get with the new version
using all my settings.
I don't want to copy things back and forward between versions.
This worked fine until the last updates
and it should be no problem for Don to solve this.

HI Horst, I was getting the upgrade/downgrade messages all the time from day 1 of the TB versions. It's really the only reason I started keeping it in a separate folder. If the messages could be eliminated at least until it's fully issued and ready for prime time, I'd put it back in the same folder.

Very good news !
Thanks and keep going !