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Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 16:33
by Filehero
admin wrote:
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v14.30.0003 - 2014-07-13 13:08
+ Toolbar | Paper Folders: Added another setting to the right-click menu:
- Show Information Bar in the List
Toggles the Paper Folder Information Bar.
Damn, didn't read. Thanks.
Is there a scripting way to show/hide the InfoBar?
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 16:36
by admin
Ah, that one. Still not interested.
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 16:59
by Filehero
admin wrote:Ah, that one. Still not interested.
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:11
by admin
Filehero wrote:admin wrote:Ah, that one. Still not interested.
That was the reply to LittleBig's post.
No, there is no scripting way.
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:15
by admin
ARGH.
I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens (
). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was
overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.
This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.
Opinions?
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:24
by Marco
admin wrote:
ARGH.
I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens (
). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was
overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.
This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.
Opinions?
My opinion: XY could open as read-only every PF-like file. BUT, only the files that have a special header can be opened with full access.
That could allow an interesting (at least imo) possibility: the header contains a title, that is shown in the PF info bar. My first thought goes to the PF generated by my search script: I could prepend a line containing the search query, that would be shown in the info bar. When such query contains invalid characters for a file name that would be a gold option, imo.
Also, such header could contain bit fields like, again, preventing overwrite/updating when location is changed, or enabling the parsing of env variables too (I read some posts ago that this is not possible atm, if I'm not wrong).
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:26
by LittleBiG
admin wrote:
ARGH.
I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens (
). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was
overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.
This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.
Opinions?
Every txt file outside of <xypaper> should be opened read-only.
ADD: I appreciate Marco's opinion, but I wouldn't make the text file more complicated by a header.
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:26
by grindax
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Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:30
by LittleBiG
grindax wrote:I think you should:
1. Always show/allow zombie items by default
2. Never automatically remove items from a paper folder
3. Put a new command on the PF TB button: Remove zombie/non-existent items
This was my first idea too. but I think adding new items and changing the sort order would be very complicated.
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:34
by Filehero
admin wrote:This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.
Opinions?
Then I use symbolic links and still blame it to you.
But maybe that's the solution.
It's difficult for me too, because I can't really assess the risk in daily usage. Reads rather clumsy, but: some sort of auto-backup if a file outside <xypaper> is opened as a paper folder?
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:36
by Marco
LittleBiG wrote:ADD: I appreciate Marco's opinion, but I wouldn't make the text file more complicated by a header.
Actually, an header wouldn't be complicated
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Title::Lorem Ipsum
bitfield1::bitfield2::...::bitfieldn
C:\george\harri.son
C:\paul\is\dea.d
.
.
.
This would make things very (99.9%) failsafe, things like what happened at Don wouldn't be possible. Sure, the interface for saving PFs would be less straightforward, but...
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 17:51
by Filehero
LittleBiG wrote:Every txt file outside of <xypaper> should be opened read-only.
For me the only reason to store/use PFs.tx outside <xypaper> is to offer shared write access to the list. See
here.
Cheers,
Filehero
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 18:04
by admin
I cannot think anymore so short before the final.
For now I will stop access to text files in other folders from Breadcrumbs Bar. (This is the way the lead to my disaster.)
Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 18:49
by grindax
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Re: Paper Folders
Posted: 13 Jul 2014 20:11
by LittleBiG
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v14.30.0004 - 2014-07-13 18:18
! Paper Folders: Fixed some more glitches.
One remained. When I am in a paper folder, the tree is gray. But if I change the tree from narrow or to narrow, the gray will change to white.