Paper Folders

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Re: Paper Folders

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admin wrote:

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v14.30.0003 - 2014-07-13 13:08
    + Toolbar | Paper Folders: Added another setting to the right-click menu:
      - Show Information Bar in the List
        Toggles the Paper Folder Information Bar.
Damn, didn't read. Thanks.

Is there a scripting way to show/hide the InfoBar?

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Ah, that one. Still not interested.

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admin wrote:Ah, that one. Still not interested.
:?:

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Filehero wrote:
admin wrote:Ah, that one. Still not interested.
:?:
That was the reply to LittleBig's post. :)

No, there is no scripting way.

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:blackstorm: :blackstorm: :blackstorm:

ARGH.

I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens ( :roll: ). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.

This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.

Opinions?

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Re: Paper Folders

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admin wrote::blackstorm: :blackstorm: :blackstorm:

ARGH.

I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens ( :roll: ). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.

This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.

Opinions?
My opinion: XY could open as read-only every PF-like file. BUT, only the files that have a special header can be opened with full access.
That could allow an interesting (at least imo) possibility: the header contains a title, that is shown in the PF info bar. My first thought goes to the PF generated by my search script: I could prepend a line containing the search query, that would be shown in the info bar. When such query contains invalid characters for a file name that would be a gold option, imo.
Also, such header could contain bit fields like, again, preventing overwrite/updating when location is changed, or enabling the parsing of env variables too (I read some posts ago that this is not possible atm, if I'm not wrong).
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Re: Paper Folders

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admin wrote::blackstorm: :blackstorm: :blackstorm:

ARGH.

I just opened an important text file as Paper Folder to see what happens ( :roll: ). Well, it work well and even listed two items it found among the lines. BUT, what I had totally forgotten, on going to another location that important file was overwritten. No way to get the data back. Oh my.

This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.

Opinions?
Every txt file outside of <xypaper> should be opened read-only.
ADD: I appreciate Marco's opinion, but I wouldn't make the text file more complicated by a header.
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grindax wrote:I think you should:
1. Always show/allow zombie items by default
2. Never automatically remove items from a paper folder
3. Put a new command on the PF TB button: Remove zombie/non-existent items
This was my first idea too. but I think adding new items and changing the sort order would be very complicated.

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admin wrote:This is so bad that I now wonder whether I should really allow to open paper folders outside <xypaper>.
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Then I use symbolic links and still blame it to you. :P But maybe that's the solution.

It's difficult for me too, because I can't really assess the risk in daily usage. Reads rather clumsy, but: some sort of auto-backup if a file outside <xypaper> is opened as a paper folder?

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LittleBiG wrote:ADD: I appreciate Marco's opinion, but I wouldn't make the text file more complicated by a header.
Actually, an header wouldn't be complicated

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Title::Lorem Ipsum
bitfield1::bitfield2::...::bitfieldn

C:\george\harri.son
C:\paul\is\dea.d
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This would make things very (99.9%) failsafe, things like what happened at Don wouldn't be possible. Sure, the interface for saving PFs would be less straightforward, but...
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Re: Paper Folders

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LittleBiG wrote:Every txt file outside of <xypaper> should be opened read-only.
For me the only reason to store/use PFs.tx outside <xypaper> is to offer shared write access to the list. See here.


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I cannot think anymore so short before the final. :ball:

For now I will stop access to text files in other folders from Breadcrumbs Bar. (This is the way the lead to my disaster.)

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Re: Paper Folders

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v14.30.0004 - 2014-07-13 18:18
    ! Paper Folders: Fixed some more glitches.
One remained. When I am in a paper folder, the tree is gray. But if I change the tree from narrow or to narrow, the gray will change to white.

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