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Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 20:55
by SkyFrontier
I agree that marking the current path in either different colors would help but if you used blue, how would you distinguish that from the currently selected blue item in list?
...that's when color customization comes into play. There are millions, billions of possibilities available and we still have to consider color-blinded people, so in no way I think such level of presentation could come without at least a basic palette to work with.

Considering individual monitor's calibration, contrasts and etc, plus the matches themselves, it is natural to expect a function calling for Windows' color dialogs - which is already common all over XYplorer.
Hallgren said:
And to SkyFrontier's idea...sounds good in theory, but how would it work in practice since my active pane is always white and inactive is always gray? Unless you mean to have a new background color specifically assigned to each pane that would then apply to tree...
That's nothing but theory, as I said. Haven't tested any tool having that function, DirOpus is the closest I get considering that huge icons in folder's background, but as in a previous comment I said, "things like that make XYplorer unique". No, any "new color" involved - user's choice. Theoretically, it's just a matter to make the tree monitor which pane is active and make it grab that pane's color to tell the user in a heartbeat: "If it's LIGHT YELLOW(pane 1)/ paint tree LIGHT YELLOW - make no mistake when moving that bunch of files around!", "LIGHT GREEN on pane 2? Paint it LIGHT GREEN for the tree!"

I'm having severe difficulties to deal with single tree/dual pane and observing the same with users coming from both single tree/pane or dual tree/pane, and that's why I think that that "issue" is harming around. But please notice: that comes up when dealing with moving files around in a large, massive files' organization routine. I can disable Sticky Selection and live without it, when it comes to such things. But that's another matter for the dual pane/single tree. Daily "open-a-window-locate-a-file-and-edit-it" operations doesn't come out a problem, but a FILE MANAGER has the primary purpose of FILE MANAGING, and based on that "issue" I still have to keep PowerDesk (basic, free, ten years old) at hand.

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 21:36
by j_c_hallgren
SkyFrontier wrote: Haven't tested any tool having that function, DirOpus is the closest I get considering that huge icons in folder's background, but as in a previous comment I said, "things like that make XYplorer unique". No, any "new color" involved - user's choice. Theoretically, it's just a matter to make the tree monitor which pane is active and make it grab that pane's color to tell the user in a heartbeat: "If it's LIGHT YELLOW(pane 1)/ paint tree LIGHT YELLOW ", "LIGHT GREEN on pane 2? Paint it LIGHT GREEN for the tree!"
Well, it would require a new set of colors as presently colors are not based on which pane it is (1 vs 2) but which pane is active so the colors don't stay with the pane now but alternate with usage...so if we had two new tree color choices (pane 1 & pane 2), then your scheme would work fine but that would thus invalidate the active/inactive colors for list if used for it also...

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 21:59
by tacchan23
Forget about colors, make the dual tree :twisted:

:mrgreen:

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 22:09
by TheQwerty
tacchan23 wrote:Forget about colors, make the dual tree :twisted:
I don't use one tree, and I don't desire to use two, but the whole color idea was awful. Sorry Don! :P

Colors are already used for too much, boxing, highlighting, list modes, active/inactive pane, locked tree. It's madness! :shock:

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 22:12
by PeterH
admin wrote:I now think it's not a good idea to mark two folders in the Tree. Let's forget about it.
That's right.

For example working with directories on d: and m: (for example each with some hundred folders of my photos) it wouldn't help much to mark both "active" folders, and then scroll the tree for one mark or the other.

It would be nice to scroll to the top of m: by scrolling the tree to the top - but that will show the top of d: in this case :( So i have to search the top of m: in the tree manually.
Now if I damaged some of my photo directories (for example), want to compare them with my backup, and restore what's necessary, dual tree would come quite handy, as both trees would show the location where I'm working.

Sometimes I find it strange that people having one way to work don't understand, that other people might do it in another way. May it be dual pane, or may it be dual tree. I would not force someone to work with dual tree - but I'm forced to work with single tree.
And maybe some have learned to work with single tree as they had now other choice? And possibly don't know what they are missing?

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 17 Feb 2010 23:10
by j_c_hallgren
PeterH wrote:Sometimes I find it strange that people having one way to work don't understand, that other people might do it in another way. May it be dual pane, or may it be dual tree. I would not force someone to work with dual tree - but I'm forced to work with single tree.
And maybe some have learned to work with single tree as they had now other choice? And possibly don't know what they are missing?
That is SO very true! And I've always tried here to understand how others work when I can...now there are times when I don't quite see how people can get by without what I consider minimal/mandatory but I don't want to force my ways on them if possible either.

Re: Dual Pane Wishes

Posted: 18 Feb 2010 07:14
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
PeterH wrote:Sometimes I find it strange that people having one way to work don't understand, that other people might do it in another way. May it be dual pane, or may it be dual tree. I would not force someone to work with dual tree - but I'm forced to work with single tree.
And maybe some have learned to work with single tree as they had now other choice? And possibly don't know what they are missing?
That is SO very true! And I've always tried here to understand how others work when I can...now there are times when I don't quite see how people can get by without what I consider minimal/mandatory but I don't want to force my ways on them if possible either.
This is the reason why there are different file managers. There is your choice.