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Mine is much older and slower but I have not the slightest speed issues with icons. But file system IO is the crucial factor here (with specific icons! ICO, EXE etc; with generic icons it's only CPU), and my disks are quite okay.

Hi Don,

the 12.40 release notes are carefully laid out, great reading. Especially the opening example is really striking for a file-level based icon configs.


Nevertheless I'd like to make some minor notes.

1. Maybe, add another example why this feature is killer at the folder level. I'd pick the use case where FluxTorpedoe found the "awesome bug". -> E.g. icon-mark all folders on your Copy-To-Go USB stick and/or external drives (your own uc for "code"-folders is a good one as well). Just any case showing this is helping to prevent doing a huuuge mistake because the critical visual signs are missing by default (yep, that's exactly my personal killer thing about it..).

2. Withdrawn - see later post concerning fav folders. Idea dropped because it would quickly cross icon overlays.

3. Introduction/Example #1: though it should be familiar to existing users, I indeed would stress here again/explicitly that any windows standard icon assignments are not touched at all.
Why? This feature might become very attractive to what I call half-geek-half-nerd users, a user that is nerd enough to try XY but geek-experienced enough to never ever again mess with everything concerning icons. Might sound a bit too much like 'drama', but you get the point.

4. Example #3: After just reading the 1st sentence "Generic folder icons too yellow?" I thought you should get your screen calibrated asap. A color contrasting yellow a bit stronger might help to get the point even better on all today's screens.


Cheers,
Filehero

Thanks for the feedback! It's always tough to get my brain from coding to selling. It's such a different kind of thinking, feels like you have to reboot to a different system.

admin wrote:Thanks for the feedback!

As always: it was a great pleasure.

admin wrote:It's always tough to get my brain from coding to selling. It's such a different kind of thinking, feels like you have to reboot to a different system.

Wem sagst Du das. But killer features need killer arguments.


Cheers,
Filehero

After having tried PFI in the latest beta I think I can best summarize my feelings about this new feature as follows:

admin wrote:Since all is done in the foreground thread browsing a large folder would simply paralyse the app.

That's what I feared, so you're right: Not wise!
Thanks for the clarification!

Now, to get back to one of your previous comments...
Well, if you *could* make opened/closed work for custom folders (not system-wide), that would be great!
After looking again at your "ribbon" animated pic, I thought I'd try and use at least the opened **\ , to mark-open my folders/folders in drives, but even written on top of PFI, it doesn't take precedence over the iconized folders/drives (ok, just saw you mentioned "that have no specific icon").

[pity mode]
So it's a bit sad that such a nice feature doesn't work like and with all the others: \*\ , /r ,... snifff
[/pity mode]

Filehero, the i7 might be older than 4 years now but it's still very very powerful. I'm so envious...

40k, that pictures perfectly sums up everything.

Don, the more I look all all of these screenshots, the more I'm curious about your current XYplorer setup. Interested in sharing more screenshots of your setup? Hehe.

FluxTorpedoe wrote:Well, if you *could* make opened/closed work for custom folders (not system-wide), that would be great!
After looking again at your "ribbon" animated pic, I thought I'd try and use at least the opened **\ , to mark-open my folders/folders in drives, but even written on top of PFI, it doesn't take precedence over the iconized folders/drives (ok, just saw you mentioned "that have no specific icon").

Yes, the **\ is only for the vanilla folders.

Conc. your wish: It will happen in the next version.
I also found a way to allow "shell32.dll /163" - like stuff!

Filehero wrote:4. Example #3: After just reading the 1st sentence "Generic folder icons too yellow?" I thought you should get your screen calibrated asap. A color contrasting yellow a bit stronger might help to get the point even better on all today's screens.

So what color do you claim they are, orange???

admin wrote:So what color do you claim they are, orange???

Lemon. But now at normal daylight the difference is much clearer, I would even say, it's ok.
Edit: too late -> now it is clear, well done.


As for my idea I dropped yesterday: does it make any sense to think about an option to allow a dedicated icon to the XY favorite folders? Not sure wether it would/could provide more navigation clarity, or become a source for additional confusion, hmmm.


Cheers,
Filehero

I revised my online examples. Better?

Filehero wrote:As for my idea I dropped yesterday: does it make any sense to think about an option to allow a dedicated icon to the XY favorite folders? Not sure wether it would/could provide more navigation clarity, or become a source for additional confusion, hmmm.

No, I don't like it so much, and that would be quite slow (lots of string comparisons).

admin wrote:I revised my online examples. Better?

Yep, much better (see edit in post above). "Full Stealth" is a great eye catcher.

admin wrote:No, I don't like it so much, and that would be quite slow (lots of string comparisons).

Confirmed my concerns, thanks.


Cheers,
Filehero

Filehero wrote:

admin wrote:I revised my online examples. Better?

Yep, much better (see edit in post above). "Full Stealth" is a great eye catcher.

I added a Test Icon Pack for download. Here's the link: http://www.xyplorer.com/download/CFI_Icons.zip

For all I know these icons are free for commercial and uncommercial use. Thanks and credits go to the designers of these icons! Some of them are from this forum.

I second what's been said about the release notes: pretty nice and clean!
You must spend quite some time in "design" mode!...
BTW, funny pinky approach for the "Full Stealth" info - must be a sakura influence...?

admin wrote:Conc. your wish: It will happen in the next version. I also found a way to allow "shell32.dll /163" - like stuff!

Wwoww!
Damn, at this rate we're soon gonna run off "Ws"!

Hi Don,

congrats to a great release. The .xys ico I like, too.


Cheers,
Filehero