Page 2 of 5
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 04 Jul 2011 15:21
by admin
Stefan wrote:As keyboard user i have set an shortcut "Shift+D" for "Go > Drives..."
and then press the key of the needed drive letter.
Ah, thanks for reminding me why I originally decided for this menu item format:
I had changed this today stupidly... will turn it back...
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 04 Jul 2011 15:33
by admin
highend wrote:It would at least make it _a lot more comfortable_ for all keyboard users to use their drives (static & non permanent).
Always at mouse cursor would be an improvement I think.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 04 Jul 2011 20:59
by highend
Always at mouse cursor would be an improvement I think.
For mouse users? Absolutely! But for all the people who prefer using a keyboard (+ kb shortcuts) this isn't very helpful because mouse position is not really relevant to them. Could you at least add an option to attach the popup to the current active pane (instead of the tree), please?
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 04 Jul 2011 21:24
by admin
highend wrote:Always at mouse cursor would be an improvement I think.
For mouse users? Absolutely! But for all the people who prefer using a keyboard (+ kb shortcuts) this isn't very helpful because mouse position is not really relevant to them. Could you at least add an option to attach the popup to the current active pane (instead of the tree), please?
Tree seems to make more sense to me.
Other opinions?
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 04 Jul 2011 23:49
by eil
i don't really have a problem with all that, but maybe all will be more satisfied if this menu would popup on current tab location?(or even at mouse location, maybe)
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 08:07
by admin
eil wrote:i don't really have a problem with all that, but maybe all will be more satisfied if this menu would popup on current tab location?(or even at mouse location, maybe)
Tree is the navigation control, List the content control.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 08:26
by j_c_hallgren
mrhermit wrote:I would like to see a drive bar added to the program. I have tried other file managers such as Free Commander, Power Desk Pro 8, FileBoss, Directory Opus and Explorer ++. All of those programs have a drive bar feature that I like for accessing a drive on my computer. The drive icon on the XYplorer Toolbar is okay but not as good as having a drive bar.
Would you or someone else be kind and post a couple of mini-screenshots of that GUI area from the best examples from other FM's so us who don't have/use those products can better follow what you mean? I think I know what it is but want to make sure.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 09:22
by Forty-Two
Which version would you like?
x2
- x2.png (2.03 KiB) Viewed 2712 times
TC
- tc.png (2.53 KiB) Viewed 2712 times
DOpus
- dopus.png (2.21 KiB) Viewed 2712 times
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 09:25
by Forty-Two
And more (only allowed 3 per post). Take you pick on design!!
Altap Salamander
- as.png (4.37 KiB) Viewed 2711 times
freeCommander
- fc.png (2.21 KiB) Viewed 2711 times
SpeedCommander
- sc.png (2.09 KiB) Viewed 2711 times
and I think almost every other file manager.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 09:45
by j_c_hallgren
Forty-Two wrote: Take you pick on design!!
Thanks!
Comments:
The DO style which is more vertical seems to take up too much screen space, esp if you have a wide screen.
The TC style makes it quite clear where to click each drive by having edges defined which I like, but drive icons aren't that great and look old.
The FreeComm is compact which is good, as is Altap.
Could this drive bar, if added to XY, be combined with another toolbar that is less than full width so as not to use up extra vertical space?
I would LOVE to have a second row of TB and thus a larger AB and that could then allow a DB as well.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 12:24
by LittleBiG
These are almost the same kind of bars, the usual ones, not so special. I hope, Don can figure out a space friendly and innovative solution instead.
Personally I think something like this: only one row above tree, next to list panel. Drive bar width would be the same as tree panel width. (So it wastes only one row from tree) It would contain only drive letters, without fancy buttons and icons. 2 functions I appreciate: show only removable drives and hide if there isn't any removable.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 05 Jul 2011 13:11
by Borut
Well, for me (as an example that such users are also here) a drive list without immediately visible drive "names" (as is now) is not usable (because I have so many).
For me, vertical is better then horizontal, because on the new screen format.
What about an optional "Show drives" which would control it (and show it) the same way the catalog is controlled today (but, very important for "keyboarders", make the drives somehow easily selectable via keyboard at the same time)?
In that way: the place for them is almost there (vertical, tree area); they can, but must not be visible; they are selectable via keyboard.
Negative: they would always be under/over the tree, but not by the active pane (not a problem for me, but obviously for some).
Regards,
Borut
P.S. Don, nice to see Ten. I am happy to realize I have invested in a good, continuously improving product. It seems that developer-user communication is not just a phrase here.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 09 Jul 2011 12:20
by admin
OK, I did something (v10.00.0005) that should satisfy at least some of the drivebarniks.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 09 Jul 2011 17:34
by nas8e9
admin wrote:OK, I did something (v10.00.0005) that should satisfy at least some of the drivebarniks.
Thank you for this. The beta changelog already mentions an improvement to come, but what I'm missing is the ability to right-click the drive button and get the shell context menu for the drive. Obviously just clicking the button to have the tree scroll to the drive and then right-clicking it, works, but it would be great to have that functionality with the toolbar button.
FWIW, other FM's drive bars already have this functionality.
Re: No Drive Bar
Posted: 09 Jul 2011 17:45
by admin
nas8e9 wrote:admin wrote:OK, I did something (v10.00.0005) that should satisfy at least some of the drivebarniks.
Thank you for this. The beta changelog already mentions an improvement to come, but what I'm missing is the ability to right-click the drive button and get the shell context menu for the drive. Obviously just clicking the button to have the tree scroll to the drive and then right-clicking it, works, but it would be great to have that functionality with the toolbar button.
FWIW, other FM's drive bars already have this functionality.
OK, good idea.