XYplorer Beta Club

highend wrote:

You do know about the Background Bar on the right of the Status Bar which indicates whether any background job is in progress and when clicked, will show the Background Jobs window which lists current and pending jobs?

This "visual feedback" is 16x12 px large on a monitor with a resolution of 1680 x 1050 and it doesn't provide any of the details that the xcopy 2.0 window shows (transfer rate / remaining time).

I picture of how this could look like:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/95222420.jpg/

Personally, I think (at least for those on Windows 7) that XYcopy.exe's taskbar icon showing the progress, is the most promising without taking up space on the status bar. Having said that, I wouldn't mind expanding the Background Bar to include job count (in progress + pending) plus the estimated time remaining.

One problems however: I have trouble locating the thread, but prior discussion about displaying more XYcopy info on the status bar showed that a lot of people customize what's shown in the third part of the status bar, which the XYcopy information would take away from. At the same time, the status bar is the obvious (and even the formally correct one... moving on...) location to display this info.

I wouldn't be a fan of taking List space away for a pane displaying progress indication, however.

I wouldn't be a fan of taking List space away for a pane displaying progress indication, however.

And you don't have to if the user is able to select if (at all) and / or how he wants the progress _window_ to display.

E.g.:
1. only as text in the status line
2. as a tab in the pop up pane
3. no window at all but a few of the progress indicators are available when clicking on the background status
4. a window that hides behind the main xyplorer window

im wondering if/how its possible to add custom su/affixes to copied files?

instead of "copy of" (standard) or date or number su/ffixes id like to be able to

customize the name for the copied files like "duplicated in yyyy-mm-dd - name of the file.doc" or "hh-nn-ss, dupe of name of the file.doc".

CodeLobster wrote:im wondering if/how its possible to add custom su/affixes to copied files?

instead of "copy of" (standard) or date or number su/ffixes id like to be able to

customize the name for the copied files like "duplicated in yyyy-mm-dd - name of the file.doc" or "hh-nn-ss, dupe of name of the file.doc".

You can do that. Use date affix template (duplicated in <date yyyymmdd> - *), and Custom Copy / on collision "Affix current date to copy".

However, this template will be used globally whenever a date is affixed to a copy.

admin wrote:

admin wrote: However, this template will be used globally whenever a date is affixed to a copy.

which is what im trying to avoid

thanks for the answer anyway.

have a good day

leo.

CodeLobster wrote:

admin wrote:

admin wrote: However, this template will be used globally whenever a date is affixed to a copy.

which is what im trying to avoid

thanks for the answer anyway.

have a good day

leo.

FYI, such an enhancement is already prepared for internally. I just hold back because I don't want to bring too much at once. I always like to see how a feature is appreciated in its purest form.

there was a mess above about losing copy process from focus -experience the same thing. most frustrating that it "hides" so, that only Alt-Tab helps.
have few thoughts about that:
- how about adding an option, or maybe a tip in UI itself, for "stay in front till the end";
- currently left click on right corner indicator open Background Jobs, right click Options menu, and middle click does the same = it would be better if middle click could bring copy-interface to front(and if there is none "copy-activity" at the moment, do nothing).

eil wrote:there was a mess above about losing copy process from focus -experience the same thing. most frustrating that it "hides" so, that only Alt-Tab helps.
have few thoughts about that:
- how about adding an option, or maybe a tip in UI itself, for "stay in front till the end";
- currently left click on right corner indicator open Background Jobs, right click Options menu, and middle click does the same = it would be better if middle click could bring copy-interface to front(and if there is none "copy-activity" at the moment, do nothing).

1. You mean "always on top" for the backgrounded progress? Sounds a bit paradoxical to me...
2. right click Options menu? Not sure what you mean.

admin wrote:1. You mean "always on top" for the backgrounded progress? Sounds a bit paradoxical to me...
2. right click Options menu? Not sure what you mean.

1. either i don't know something or it's only 2 options now: background enabled and copy window covers under(but lets you work); and no background, with copy window not allowing to do anything. i was somewhat about ability to continue to work and see copy process.(sorry if i'm fool and it was discussed, and no way to do so)
2. bottom right indicator of background jobs > right click on it shows menu with different options. same does middle click, so i proposed to use it(middle one) to place copy window in sight if it's covered under.

E.g.:
1. only as text in the status line
2. as a tab in the pop up pane
3. no window at all but a few of the progress indicators are available when clicking on the background status
4. a window that hides behind the main xyplorer window

So option 2 (because that's my personal favorite) isn't something that can / will be included?

Would be a sad choice. I've used SpeedCommander for about 5 years and I haven't seen any negative comments in it's forum about it's way to include the status progress in the main window.

XCopy 2.0 was the number 1 on the wishlist and now we have to live with a vanishing window if we want backgrounded processes? Can't see a real reason for a progress window at all when it's not visible while the (background) process is running

about "2. as a tab in the pop up pane" = don't really understand what popup and where that tab is placed

eil wrote:about "2. as a tab in the pop up pane" = don't really understand what popup and where that tab is placed

Probably Window > Show Info Panel, which has several tabs.

I've combined the status window with the main window.

It could look like this:
@zero

Done :)

I remember suggesting quite some time ago that the 3rd from the left section of the status bar can double up as a placeholder for the progress bar with details on mouseover.

P.S. I'd rather GUI desires were confined here: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4405

P.P.S. highend, please attach your screenshots here instead of uploading to a remote host, thanks. You also forgot to blur the address bar and title bar

P.P.P.S. Do I understand it correctly that "Custom Copy" would only be applicable to copy operations and not to move jobs?

eil wrote:

admin wrote:1. You mean "always on top" for the backgrounded progress? Sounds a bit paradoxical to me...
2. right click Options menu? Not sure what you mean.

1. either i don't know something or it's only 2 options now: background enabled and copy window covers under(but lets you work); and no background, with copy window not allowing to do anything. i was somewhat about ability to continue to work and see copy process.(sorry if i'm fool and it was discussed, and no way to do so)
2. bottom right indicator of background jobs > right click on it shows menu with different options. same does middle click, so i proposed to use it(middle one) to place copy window in sight if it's covered under.

The next version should solve the taskbar issue for background processes. That should make it workable for you.