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Posted: 26 Nov 2005 11:28
by admin
Conc. the del bug: I could never reproduce it but looking at the code I could imagine what apparently happens at your end. Must be an obscure difference between W2K and XP. Anyway, I hope I have fixed it.
Congratulations, you have found the first XYplorer bug!
The fix will come only after the new website and forum is done (should be today)... sorry about that.
Conc. the network refresh: really great. I wish every bug would lead to such an improvement.

Posted: 26 Nov 2005 11:38
by Creat
no problem with the waiting for the update, autorefresh is disabled for network speed now anyway so that problem is out of my way at the moment as well

Posted: 26 Nov 2005 11:58
by admin
Creat wrote:no problem with the waiting for the update, autorefresh is disabled for network speed now anyway so that problem is out of my way at the moment as well

I distinguish three network depth levels:
\\Server\ServerShare\ServerShareFolder\
Do you see auto-refresh induced speed reduction on each of those levels?
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 12:16
by admin
Whooops, now here's something very strange: I just saw that auto-refresh is unconditionally disabled for any UNC-path since 20050307! I had forgotten that...
So, do you work with mapped drives only, or is this a total mystery?
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 16:25
by Creat
I work mainly with mapped drives, yes. If I use UNC-Style paths, I generally use an explorer window since Tracker expands the My Network Places (which takes about 5 seconds alone) and such [I know there's no better way to do it in an environment like Tracker, but that's why not ;].
and no, the display delay is fixed for UNC paths (at least for me) so it is unconditionaly disabled for those.
EDIT: Listing \\Server\ServerShare seems to be slightly slower (so slightly that it's barely noticeable, but I'm still pretty sure it is the case) than listing the same share mapped to a drive letter with disabled auto-refresh. Still significantly faster than mapped and auto-refresh on though...
bye
Creat
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 19:30
by admin
Check out XYplorer...

Posted: 26 Nov 2005 21:06
by Creat
nice! new name!
Ok I think I might need an explanation for some of those new options there:
I assume the 4 checkboxes under "Auto-refresh on filesystem changes" are only relevant when that is checked, right? Why not disable them when it's unckecked?
Second, in order for the delay with listing network drives to go away I need to uncheck "local drives", did you just accidentally switch the local and netword drives variables or something, is there something actually not working correctly or did I just misinterpret/misunderstand something?
And I'm not sure what you mean by non-current locations. But I think you mean things that are displayed (but not selected) in the tree, right? If so, I don't think it's easily comprehensible (not that I have a better suggestion), maybe a explaining tooltip or something?
anyway: nice work!
bye
Creat
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 21:49
by CyGho
Yeah, see also here:
http://www.trackerv3.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=469 witch i posted a minute ago.
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 22:38
by Creat
Oh boy I'm so sorry, but now I have a weird "visual effect" when deleting folders in the tree (the lowest node doesn't disappear anymore though, yay!).
It also only happens when auto-refresh is on and is kinda hard to describe, so I made a 3-step-screenshot:
first on the left is how it starts, then I hit del and the folder disappears and focus moves up (looking like the part on the right), then for half a second or so it looks like the middle part before finally getting to correctly displaying like on the right. [red arrow indicates problem obviously

]
It has nothing to do with the fact that the next folder is RECYCLER, interestingly enough the same happens when P_Test is NOT shared (which is kinda weird considering the error is the shared-symbol, had I deleted New Folder)
Just a note, I'm not sure this is intentional or not: I also noticed during testing that share-symbols are never updated unless I restart XYxplorer. When I share a folder it gets shared correctly, but the symbol doesn't appear, same with endig a share: restart required to update icons (F4/F5 doesn't help, Ctrl-F4 does but collapses all folders exept current one [as it's supposed to])
EDIT: I just noticed the location of the shared symbol is always directly left of the deleted folder (I only deleted the last one in the above example so it appears besides RECYCLER, had I deleted New Folder-01 it woul've appeard next to New Folder-02)
bye
Creat
Posted: 26 Nov 2005 22:47
by admin
You understood the new config alright. But I changed the captions to make it more comprehensible.
Your results are interesting. No, I did not mix up local and network....

Posted: 26 Nov 2005 23:18
by admin
Creat wrote:Oh boy I'm so sorry, but now I have a weird "visual effect" when deleting folders in the tree (the lowest node doesn't disappear anymore though, yay!).
... then I hit del and the folder disappears and focus moves up ...
This is the part where I start wondering. It should not move up at all but down (resp. stay whereas the lower tree moves up) as is usual behavior with deletions.
Can anybody with Win2K reproduce this??
Posted: 27 Nov 2005 00:36
by admin
Creat wrote:Just a note, I'm not sure this is intentional or not: I also noticed during testing that share-symbols are never updated unless I restart XYxplorer. When I share a folder it gets shared correctly, but the symbol doesn't appear, same with endig a share: restart required to update icons (F4/F5 doesn't help, Ctrl-F4 does but collapses all folders exept current one [as it's supposed to])
F4/F5 does help now.

Posted: 27 Nov 2005 01:50
by Creat
another note: when I have mapped say \\server\share to a drive and delte a folder (or subfolder) there from the treeview (f.ex. \\server\share\somefolder or \\server\share\somefolder\subfolder) it doesn't move up but instead shows that share-icon - as above - but it stays and in the listview I get:
-snip-
currently not available
\
-snap-
no idea why though ...
bye
Creat
Posted: 27 Nov 2005 07:42
by admin
Say, do you have similar weird effects when you rename a tree node?
Posted: 27 Nov 2005 08:02
by Creat
no, renaming never does that
btw about 5 minutes ago I couldn't reproduce that currently available bug from above, now it's back though. I don't know what was different or anything, just wanted to let you know... Anyway it's back now
bye
Creat