Should I drop "Favorite Files"???

[j_c_hallgren]

However, I just saw: Fav Files is completely covered by Fav Folders! You can have a file in Fav Folders and the functionality is 100% identical to having it in Fav Files.

Ok, so it can be done... ...BUT...now when I want a file, I go to that entry, and when I want a folder, I go to that entry...having them mixed together defeats that purpose, and the only way (I see easily) to avoid this would be another menu level which reduces speed of access.

Now the "Special System Folders"... they could/should go to menu Go, right?

While I understand the reasons why, it would thus make it less efficient to access, as now it's the 2nd entry in menu, which makes it quick & easy, and within the "Go" menu, there are so many entries that I tend to avoid that menu.

Am I reluctant to change? Yes, in some cases, when it's features that I use often!

[jacky]

Multi-way: have various ways to the same destination, ways that differ in complexity, power, speed, feel...

UDC, while more powerful, has a price: it's more difficult.
Scripting, while more powerful, has a price: it's much more difficult.
Catalog, while more powerful, has a price: it takes screen space.

Yeah, except that what I was just saying is that with S2.0, you can use a script file that would work exactly like Fav Files now : show a menu listing the files, have a Toggle command, etc And it wouldn't really be more difficult, not if after someone wrote the script, what it takes for users is to just put the file in their Scripts folder and use it.

I have an unrelated question I've been meaning to ask for a little while now, so here I go : since when is there a "NetHood" item on the Special System Folders menu ?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't there "at first", and now it is, and I don't recall reading about it in the changelog (though I could have missed it), and I've been wondering about it ever since I noticed it a while back already...

Scripting 2 will add file i/o commands, global variables, and (if I manage to do it...) conditions (If then else) and loops.

Oh please manage to do it, please!
hmm.. was that about conditions only, or loops as well??
And, please manage to do it, please!

[admin]

I have an unrelated question I've been meaning to ask for a little while now, so here I go : since when is there a "NetHood" item on the Special System Folders menu ?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't there "at first", and now it is, and I don't recall reading about it in the changelog (though I could have missed it), and I've been wondering about it ever since I noticed it a while back already...

Call it an easter egg, I just did not feel like putting it on the change log. And see, you found it!

[admin]

Okay, let's draw a line here. I think the topic is not worth many more words at the moment. I will come back to it when more users show up that are confused by the partial overlapping between Catalog, Fav Folders, and Fav Files.

When you look at living creatures, you see that showing remnants of earlier stages of evolution, functional redundancies, and categorical fuzziness is the most normal thing. It's the historical dimension, and a sign of evolution in progress.

So for now: No changes here.

[Walrez]

Okay, let's draw a line here. I think the topic is not worth many more words at the moment. I will come back to it when more users show up that are confused by the partial overlapping between Catalog, Fav Folders, and Fav Files.

When you look at living creatures, you see that showing remnants of earlier stages of evolution, functional redundancies, and categorical fuzziness is the most normal thing. It's the historical dimension, and a sign of evolution in progress.

So for now: No changes here.

Hi,
I wanted to clarify something, since it was me who started asking about this: It's not that I'm confused. I'm actually an experienced user, and a software engineer myself. Maybe because of this I thought that having three different ways to achieve the same result sounded a little weird, and wanted to verify that I wasn't missing something.

I'm still through the 30-days period, but I must admit that I'm rather an obsessive purist, and this (and some other little concerns about the ui) kinda turned me off :-/

But I'll keep watching, since xy is rather a unique product, and it's scripting capabilities, the catalog, and many little details really set it apart.

Thanks for all your support!
Walter

[admin]

Okay, let's draw a line here. I think the topic is not worth many more words at the moment. I will come back to it when more users show up that are confused by the partial overlapping between Catalog, Fav Folders, and Fav Files.

When you look at living creatures, you see that showing remnants of earlier stages of evolution, functional redundancies, and categorical fuzziness is the most normal thing. It's the historical dimension, and a sign of evolution in progress.

So for now: No changes here.

Hi,
I wanted to clarify something, since it was me who started asking about this: It's not that I'm confused. I'm actually an experienced user, and a software engineer myself. Maybe because of this I thought that having three different ways to achieve the same result sounded a little weird, and wanted to verify that I wasn't missing something.

I'm still through the 30-days period, but I must admit that I'm rather an obsessive purist, and this (and some other little concerns about the ui) kinda turned me off :-/

But I'll keep watching, since xy is rather a unique product, and it's scripting capabilities, the catalog, and many little details really set it apart.

Hi Walter,

I can totally relate to purism (but not to obsessive purism ). To me, Catalog and Favs can happily live together without hurting my feelings of economic beauty.

However, as mentioned before, the distinction Fav Folders versus Fav Files is quite stupid as seen from the present state of the app and is merely a historical relic. The difference between the two is not "folder versus files" (both can point to folders and files in a 100% identical way) but that Fav Folders are visually marked in the Tree and Fav Files are not marked anywhere; and that Fav Folders pop up as context menu of the Tree.
But still I can see a practical use in having the two: they are like two pre-labeled boxes where the user can collect his favorites in, folders and files. A little non-puristic extra-service.