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Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 06 Mar 2021 09:20
by eil
first i didn't care 'cause didn't have trouble with no Apply button, but now i do care with buttons re-arranging. why making so drastic changes with moving Help too?(it definitely fits left side where it was)
i missed the time of question about re-arrange, and i see many programs(but not all !) use this illogical OK - Cancel - Apply, but imo it would be much more logical like:
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Apply(Apply current changes and let me do more) - OK(Approve all changes and close) - Cancel (Cancel all changes and close)
plus no harm for users who used to have old buttons arrange.
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Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 06 Mar 2021 09:36
by admin
Well, I personally like the previous one (same as yours) better as well. That "Standard" does not make much sense to me.
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 06 Mar 2021 10:17
by eil
i hope more people to come say their word so maybe you decide to "brake the standard".
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 06 Mar 2021 12:06
by klownboy
The Help button is better suited for the left side where it was. So I'm for breaking the Windows standard and going with eil's button layout. I didn't say anything yesterday 'cause I figured I could get my old brain used to whatever you came up with, but I did think, why move the Help button.
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 06 Mar 2021 16:58
by notabot
I feel I am not entitled to any opinion on teh matter as a newbie (and worse: not even an actual user), but in case it helps:
I think the position of the current Help button - below the navigation pane - is misplaced.
To me it indicates that you get general help on configuration matters. Not the context sensitive help that it actually is.
I would put the help "button" on title row like this (very hasty mockup, just for explanation purposes):
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Then the Jump ... button can take whole width of the navigation pane.
Personally, I don't care for the OK-Cancel-Apply order of the buttons. Just add the regular keyboard shortuts to them
( &Ok; just like the main menu).
EDIT: Skip that last part; bad idea, as those are already in use by the settings themself ...
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 07 Mar 2021 09:29
by admin
context sensitive help button... yes, it would be more logical, but also more ugly. IMO it works well enough as it is.
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 07 Mar 2021 21:40
by eil
comfortable layout is back, yeah.)
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 16 Mar 2021 07:49
by oXYgen
Hey! Why does Apply button come first before OK button? I just accidentally clicked it. Many people are used to "OK - Cancel - Apply" order in Windows. You should not ignore them. Please don't say to use some kind of resource editor to change this
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 16 Mar 2021 09:40
by admin
Simple: Most people are used to Cancel as the right-most button. This is deep muscular knowledge. Now "OK - Cancel - Apply" would be fatal.
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 16 Mar 2021 10:10
by oXYgen
I expected such an answer
At first glance you are right, but in fact you are not. Cancel button always follows OK button. It does not necessarily have to be the rightmost button. Please don't ruin the Windows standards.
Re: Please add an "Apply" button to Configuration modal.
Posted: 17 Mar 2021 21:43
by eil
oXYgen wrote: ↑16 Mar 2021 07:49
Many people are used to "OK - Cancel - Apply" order in Windows. You should not ignore them.
so let those "many" people to come and complain. for the moment safety is first, and illogical habits from MS later.