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Posted: 18 Sep 2007 09:38
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:A checkbox would be fine, but for label, I'd maybe say "Use Template Excluded Folders" or "Use Template Excludes" (shorter)...or..."Process Template Excludes"...or...going the other way..."Ignore Excludes in Template"....something along those lines... as "Load Excluded Folders" could be possibly confusing as to what it implies.
I would understand this, but it will confuse many... The problem is: you have re-usable templates and then you offer the option not to use parts of them. This is already an interaction sin... It might work somehow (since the idea behind it makes sense), but it's difficult to communicate...

Posted: 18 Sep 2007 09:58
by j_c_hallgren
Yet we already have the ability to select via option if search location is current or from template, so isn't that a similar situation? :wink: :?
I see this as just a variant of this current option...but the inverse, in a way, as we're saying use current excludes or excludes from template, right?

So maybe a (whatever you call that dot selection thingy) option with "Exclude stored folders" vs "Exclude current folders" as possible labels would be more similar to existing, and thus easier to follow?

And this would only apply to those templates loaded via this panel, so any templates loaded implicitly would do which way? Good question...

Posted: 18 Sep 2007 12:08
by jacky
admin wrote:A template is also loaded each time a finding tab is opened.
Okay, but! I think your answer here is due to the fact that you're the man behind the curtain, looking at the source code.
From a user POV, I think this is not really the case; Let me explain...

I think that for users, Templates are that, and only that : Templates. As in, those thing I save & load as templates.

Finding Tabs, while it might be working the same internally (hence your reply) are not seen as template, not for us. Because, here's how the user checks his Search Templates : Ctrl+F9
They're all there, and there are no such things as templates for Finding Tabs or anything like that.

In other words : Templates are "User" Templates, from the Search Templates GUI. Finding tabs are a different things, and I would say that as such yes, no matter what they should remember/load their Excluded Folders.

As jc mentioned, the search location is stored in Templates, but there's already an option to load it or not, the same would be applied for Excluded Folders.

But Finding Tabs are living in their own bubble, they always load their settings, locations, and excluded folders. That's I believe the normal/expected behavior, from a user POV.

Hence only one option, for Search Templates, and that option is no different than the one for location - so it shouldn't be that confusing.

Posted: 18 Sep 2007 16:09
by j_c_hallgren
jacky: Once again you've taken the time to write a much more complete (and thus better) answer that matches my viewpoint! You said it VERY well! Thanks!!! :D

Posted: 18 Sep 2007 23:31
by jacky
j_c_hallgren wrote:jacky: Once again you've taken the time to write a much more complete (and thus better) answer that matches my viewpoint! You said it VERY well! Thanks!!! :D
My pleasure 8)

Posted: 19 Sep 2007 10:19
by admin
jacky wrote:
j_c_hallgren wrote:jacky: Once again you've taken the time to write a much more complete (and thus better) answer that matches my viewpoint! You said it VERY well! Thanks!!! :D
My pleasure 8)
I was also convinced. :) Done. 8)