XY = Non-notable software

Post by **j_c_hallgren** » 27 Jul 2007 15:09

Yes, thay may well be cleaning up that category, given the comments (rants?) that I've made on WP about this...

I'll point y'all to some of them if you can't find them...
Here's the most recent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk: ... er_here...
which was a follow-up to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:151.203.127.31
which was based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... er_here...

Remember that ANY comments I've made are based on MY opinions and may well not reflect the feelings of Don, jacky, or others...

Post by **admin** » 27 Jul 2007 19:04

j_c_hallgren wrote:Yes, thay may well be cleaning up that category, given the comments (rants?) that I've made on WP about this...

Wow, you really spend time on this. Much appreciated, man!

I think XYplorer's portability alone should grant it a place in WP! As you see here (and even "they" did not dare to remove XY here...) there are only 4 portable file managers mentioned (Dopus portable? hm...) :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po ... le_Manager
So, it might not be that notable yet, but it does something very notable these days, and which obviously not many others can do... Doing something notable -- doesn't this make you notable?

Post by **serendipity** » 28 Jul 2007 15:17

Hi Guys!
I was off for sometime and I saw this yesterday. It is ridiculous that wikipedia says XY is not notable (its a joke). I am happy that many of you already have mentioned the views I have too. I am simply disgusted by the kind of treatment they have done. I added a lot of jpegs and other stuff in wikipedia and now its gone. XY has so many revolutionary features that one has to make separate categories to include those. I guess JC and others have already dealt with the issue pretty nicely and I really appreciate that. but still i will slam the guys who have done this. I am livid now.

@Don: I understand your agony, we users will put XY back on popularity charts.

edit: Forgot to add this interesting point, if XY was not notable there wouldnt be people trying to crack the license which lead Don to opt for a better, stronger license key. heh.. XY is so notable that people are dying to use it.

Post by **j_c_hallgren** » 28 Jul 2007 18:40

admin wrote:
j_c_hallgren wrote:Yes, thay may well be cleaning up that category, given the comments (rants?) that I've made on WP about this...
Wow, you really spend time on this. Much appreciated, man!

Yes, I DID spend quite some time on those comments! Given that I'm still a hunt-n-peck typist and my speed has gone way down now that I'm not doing it as much, I probably spent about 4-6 hrs trying to defend XY there...

On the bright side, I may have caused some other products to get yanked as well, so that may be called a small victory!

At least the latest comments by Echuck215 that I made on his page seem to have been received well...as compared to some of the more disrespectful ones made on original AFD....

ugus · Post by **ugus** » 29 Jul 2007 08:49

Is XYplorer removed??! from download.com? I did a search for it and couldn't find it....

Post by **admin** » 29 Jul 2007 09:29

ugus wrote:Is XYplorer removed??! from download.com? I did a search for it and couldn't find it....

This is indeed the next joke! Some days ago I paid CNET for a little promotion. Up to now their only reaction was to remove XYplorer. Well, I guess it's back shortly, VERY shortly...

Post by **admin** » 29 Jul 2007 14:43

Another important point concerning XY's allegedly lacking notability: only on 26 Nov 2005 (1.5 years ago) I renamed TrackerV3 to XYplorer!

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I quickly compiled some references that may be worthy to prove or manifest XY's notability, I'm sure there are more. Please post them here, if you know of any:

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/05/11 ... ts-abound/
http://riseagain.wordpress.com/2007/05/ ... -managers/
http://www.anova.org/software/
http://www.simplehelp.net/2006/10/11/10 ... -reviewed/
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/ ... topic=4849
http://88.191.26.34/XYwiki/index.php/Main_Page
http://www.techsupportalert.com/issues/issue133.htm
http://wordpress.com/tag/xyplorer/

mwb1100 · Post by **mwb1100** » 29 Jul 2007 19:41

You see, Don... go on vacation for a couple weeks and all hell breaks lose.

Post by **admin** » 30 Jul 2007 16:33

ugus wrote:Is XYplorer removed??! from download.com? I did a search for it and couldn't find it....

It's there now:
http://www.download.com/XYplorer/3000-2 ... ag=lst-0-1

Although I told them 3 times, they did not remove the stupid tag line "Browse the Internet with various features."

Post by **j_c_hallgren** » 30 Jul 2007 17:20

admin wrote:Although I told them 3 times, they did not remove the stupid tag line "Browse the Internet with various features."

So you don't have any edit control over that tag line? Where do they get it from then?

BTW, you may want to add/update some values on this page, if you can:
http://www.download.com/Donald%20Lessau ... dw_publink

And did you lose some reviews that were there before in this process?

Post by **admin** » 30 Jul 2007 17:32

j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:Although I told them 3 times, they did not remove the stupid tag line "Browse the Internet with various features."
So you don't have any edit control over that tag line? Where do they get it from then?

BTW, you may want to add/update some values on this page, if you can:
http://www.download.com/Donald%20Lessau ... dw_publink

I'd like to know who invented that idiot line, too!

About those outdated values: I filled in the update form 3 times, each time got a "Thank you!", and then nothing actually got updated. I finally gave up. I told you CNET is crap. Now I know: it's crap even if you pay them...

UPDATE: just checked, they do have the new info. That info page is just not yet updated, should happen shortly...

j_c_hallgren wrote:And did you lose some reviews that were there before in this process?

No, they are just hiding them under the link "All versions"... hrmpf...

Post by **j_c_hallgren** » 30 Jul 2007 17:47

admin wrote:I quickly compiled some references that may be worthy to prove or manifest XY's notability, I'm sure there are more. Please post them here, if you know of any:

Unfortunately, according to my understanding of WP's definition of "notability", none of these would likely qualify, as they do not have any defined editorial review procedure by other individuals, as a print magazine would have...

The Langa newsletter has a remote chance, based on the resume of Fred, who has been involved in computer industry reporting for some 25 yrs...

A blog or wiki or reviews made on a software download site aren't good enough for WP folks, it seems...

Post by **admin** » 01 Aug 2007 15:46

j_c_hallgren wrote:
admin wrote:I quickly compiled some references that may be worthy to prove or manifest XY's notability, I'm sure there are more. Please post them here, if you know of any:
Unfortunately, according to my understanding of WP's definition of "notability", none of these would likely qualify, as they do not have any defined editorial review procedure by other individuals, as a print magazine would have...

The Langa newsletter has a remote chance, based on the resume of Fred, who has been involved in computer industry reporting for some 25 yrs...

A blog or wiki or reviews made on a software download site aren't good enough for WP folks, it seems...

Yep, seems so. What I need is a fullblown multi-part BBC feature on a Saturday evening. Working on it...

Post by **admin** » 03 Aug 2007 20:41

There are people that spend their time designing new icons for XYplorer:
http://j-dott.wincustomize.com/skins.as ... 8&libid=29

Now, if that isn't notability...

Post by **admin** » 08 Aug 2007 12:59

The 21 July 2007 wikipedia ban in a dramatic visual:

(originally made by google site analytics)