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Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 08:36
by Stef123
This may be more important that I thought. When you say...
admin wrote:...you only search them when you want to find something in them, right? Which you will only do if the thing is TICKED. So there is no point at all in ticking it OFF.
Does that mean XY won't find content in certain file types unless IFilters are active? I am not talking databases and emails but Excel, Word and PDF.

If so, does that mean XY will run an indexing service, or does it mean, it will extract information out of existing indexes? I am asking because Indexing is OFF on most machines I work with.

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 08:53
by admin
No, XY does not depend on any indexing service. It will extract the text freshly.

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 09:12
by Stef123
Good. And it also has all necessary tools onboard to do this?
I won't have to make sure the system provides it?

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 09:19
by admin
The system has to provide the IFilters.

This can show you the ones you got: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_filter_view.html

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 09:49
by Stef123
Indexing services are a big No No in some environments. Good to know I'll have to use other search tools in these cases.

I am glad we had this talk. :wink:

BTW, when running that tool it made XY crash. Had noticed that before with other tools and installs: If they need elevated rights and I confirm, that very moment XY will crash. I can only start them from other file managers.

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 09:55
by autocart
Despite the nirsoft-search_filter_view-tool showing a pub-iFilter (I have Publisher 2007 installed next to MSOffice 2010) and the .pub-extension showing in the "Find File Types Filter" list, it does not find any content in pub files.

EDIT: "Agent Ransack" (which according to the help also uses iFilters) does find the content inside the .pub-files as expected.

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 10:52
by admin
Stef123 wrote:Indexing services are a big No No in some environments. Good to know I'll have to use other search tools in these cases.

I am glad we had this talk. :wink:

BTW, when running that tool it made XY crash. Had noticed that before with other tools and installs: If they need elevated rights and I confirm, that very moment XY will crash. I can only start them from other file managers.
1. Indexing service? No, IFilter just extracts text from a file. There is no indexing service involved.

2. Hm, no crash here. How do you run the tool, dbl-click?

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 10:53
by admin
autocart wrote:Despite the nirsoft-search_filter_view-tool showing a pub-iFilter (I have Publisher 2007 installed next to MSOffice 2010) and the .pub-extension showing in the "Find File Types Filter" list, it does not find any content in pub files.

EDIT: "Agent Ransack" (which according to the help also uses iFilters) does find the content inside the .pub-files as expected.
Do you see anything for pub files with the new ExtractText command?

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 12:01
by autocart
when i use it like this:
text extracttext("M:\...\Publisher\Bedienungsanleitung GK Avion.pub");
then the error in the picture comes. same with .odt files or with file names w/o specified extension or with file names not existing.

EDIT: pdf files work ok (pdf-xchange-ifilter installed), doc also works ok

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 12:08
by admin
OK, needs research...

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 14:45
by admin
OK, it might be the bitness. You might have only 64-bit IFilters installed for this file type.

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 16:02
by autocart
Is there a way to find out?

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 16:03
by admin
Probably but I don't know it. :|

Re: IFilters

Posted: 09 Apr 2014 16:11
by Stef123
@autocart,
you could try the same thing with the trial version of FileLocatorPro to find out. You activate IFilters on their options tab (next to the main tab) under "Enhanced File Searching". Or you could simply download the Office Filter Pack from the same page:
http://www.mythicsoft.com/filelocatorpro/download

Re: IFilters

Posted: 10 Apr 2014 07:26
by autocart
It really seems to be the bitness:
@work: win64bit: odt-iFilter does not work with XY
@home: win32bit: odt-iFilter works with XY ok

Regarding the mentioned separate download and install of the 32bit iFilter-pack (msoffice2010), when I try to install it it pops up an error message saying my platform architecture does not match the msi installer type. I hate microsoft.