XYplorer Beta Club

TheQwerty wrote:

kodyman wrote:If it was because they were dull and drab...

Based on no facts at all but solely the timing of their removal...

I had the thought that they were removed because Don could not find one he liked for "Custom Columns" and didn't enjoy wasting time searching for icons anymore. *shrugs*

Yo, both. I disliked them since long and the arrival of "Custom Columns" was the final nail to their coffin.

Sure, if you come up with a set of icons I like I will add them. But I can tell you already now: it's near impossible. I'm too picky!

admin wrote:Sure, if you come up with a set of icons I like I will add them. But I can tell you already now: it's near impossible. I'm too picky!

I have a hard enough time finding icons for my own work.

I am extremely envious of those who possess the skills to create good looking icons.

If anybody comes up with a good grouping for these, I will happily implement that.

Tree and List
Sort and Rename
Refresh, Icons, History
Menus, Mouse, Safety
Controls and More
Startup & Exit
Colors
Styles
Color Filters
Tags
Custom Columns
Fonts
Templates
Find Files & Branch View
File Operations
Report
Preview
Previewed Formats
File Info Tips
Thumbnails
Dual Pane
Tabs
Undo & Action Log
Shell Integration
Features

With the icons no longer available as the visual cue that some preferred, this seems like an excellent opportunity to at least put the categories in alphabetical order. It is the logical thing to do and there is no compelling reason for not doing so.

Color Filters
Colors
Controls and More
Custom Columns
Dual Pane
Features
File Info Tips
File Operations
Find Files & Branch View
Fonts
Menus, Mouse, Safety
Preview
Previewed Formats
Refresh, Icons, History
Report
Shell Integration
Sort and Rename
Startup & Exit
Styles
Tabs
Tags
Templates
Thumbnails
Tree and List
Undo & Action Log

Yes, could work. But is it better than grouping? Not sure...

IMHO even the XY cognoscenti are not that familiar with the "groupings" system let alone the program neophytes. Based on both reason and logic seriously belief that alphabetical is the more efficacious approach.

Looking at it I must say I agree with you. Simple and efficient.

However, argh: We have 17 languages, and a Help which mirrors the current order. I think that's the death of the idea.

Why not adding some separator?
And perhaps moving Undo&Action Log below File Operations...

Yes, not bad. But I would need small catchy terms for each group because they would have to fit into the list in bold face.

Main/Settings, Colors, File Ops, Preview, Tabs, Meta

Marco wrote:Main/Settings, Colors, File Ops, Preview, Tabs, Meta

But if we're going to put things into groups, those group headers names should not duplicate any item within than group, as that would be confusing, I think.

In addtion to having group headers and hopefully small/thin divider lines as well (if header lines are not colored/etc) , could the detail items be indented just a bit?

1. You think right, but I couldn't think of better short catchy terms.
2. Absolutely agree.

How about this:

General
  Tree and List
  Sort and Rename
  Refresh, Icons, History
  Menus, Mouse, Safety
  Controls and More
  Startup & Exit

Colors and Styles
  Colors
  Styles
  Color Filters
  Fonts
  Templates

Information
  Tags
  Custom Columns

File Operations
  Find Files & Branch View
  File Operations
  Undo & Action Log

Preview
  Preview
  Previewed Formats
  File Info Tips
  Thumbnails
  Report

Tabs and Panes
  Tabs
  Dual Pane

Other
  Shell Integration
  Features

Something along that line? I alphabetically ordered things within each subsection. Also, certain things I moved around. Sure, the naming is still boring though.

I like mine better.