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Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 30 Jan 2009 19:55
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Don't want to argue with you but must point out a couple of things:
admin wrote:1. No, this is not the place for such details.
Huh? So why then...On
http://www.xyplorer.com/tour/index.php?page=catalog, I see this: "
All catalog data are saved in a small file called catalog.dat and is ready for take-away." and on
http://www.xyplorer.com/tour/index.php?page=cks, I see this: "
The shortcuts are saved in a small binary file called ks.dat that you can travel with. "...so why shouldn't tag.dat get the same treatment?
Those are just two examples from XY site of what I meant...
admin wrote:j_c_hallgren wrote:Also, it implies that tags are retained with file operations in all cases, but this isn't the case when destination exists, right?
2. No, they are retained in all cases.
Ok...so I didn't quite say it fully correctly either but I was referring to a couple of cases, such as move, where a
"non-tag does NOT overwrite old tag: old tag stays", so while the tag status of the overwitten item is retained, the status of the replacing item is lost, ok?
And while you do't explicitly say "Copy" in the
"with file operations (e.g. move or rename).", it can be inferred via the "e.g" that it does include that, and since copy doesn't retain tags (right?), then this is in conflict with the 'retained in
all cases'....adding a "as logically appropriate" could maybe be enough.
1. That's tour, not whatsnew. They have different level of detail.
2. They are
retained on Copy as well. They are just
no new tags added to the DB to auto-tag the targets of the copy operation.
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 30 Jan 2009 20:18
by j_c_hallgren
admin wrote:1. That's tour, not whatsnew. They have different level of detail.
AH!
Sorry! Didn't notice that.
2. They are retained on Copy as well. They are just no new tags added to the DB to auto-tag the targets of the copy operation.
Ok...now I see where the difference in understanding comes in...you're saying the original file retains the tag, which is true, but to me, retains
also applies to the copy...see? Sort of like Vers/EXIF/etc...So that's why just adding those few words would handle these cases nicely, IMHO.
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 30 Jan 2009 20:25
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:admin wrote:1. That's tour, not whatsnew. They have different level of detail.
AH!
Sorry! Didn't notice that.
2. They are retained on Copy as well. They are just no new tags added to the DB to auto-tag the targets of the copy operation.
Ok...now I see where the difference in understanding comes in...you're saying the original file retains the tag, which is true, but to me, retains
also applies to the copy...see? Sort of like Vers/EXIF/etc...So that's why just adding those few words would handle these cases nicely, IMHO.
Okay, I think the best would be to remove the whole retain stuff from woznu. It's the expected behavior anyway, so why mention it.
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 02 Feb 2009 21:00
by Muroph
i've started using tags last week and i really like it.
however, i think there should be more coloring options.
name and whole row don't work well with color filters and selections, and they make the list look like a rainbow some times.
and the tag column takes some precious space on my 1024x768 screen.
IMO, the best way to easily see the tags without those problems would be an option to apply the color to the line number column, since it's already there (at least for me) and selections/color filters have no effect on it.
p.s.: sorry if there's already a post about this, but i'm in a hurry.
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 02 Feb 2009 22:09
by jacky
Did you try the "Symbol" coloring scheme on Tag Column ? Using that you can reduce the Tag column to a very minimum, doesn't eat much space and still makes things easy to notice/work with (including right-click to set tags)
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 02 Feb 2009 22:20
by admin
jacky wrote:Did you try the "Symbol" coloring scheme on Tag Column ? Using that you can reduce the Tag column to a very minimum, doesn't eat much space and still makes things easy to notice/work with (including right-click to set tags)
Plus you can
sort by tags!
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 03 Feb 2009 18:09
by Muroph
admin wrote:jacky wrote:Did you try the "Symbol" coloring scheme on Tag Column ? Using that you can reduce the Tag column to a very minimum, doesn't eat much space and still makes things easy to notice/work with (including right-click to set tags)
Plus you can
sort by tags!
good points!
i guess if i take 2~3 px from the other colums i might be able to use the tag symbol.
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 03 Feb 2009 19:13
by admin
Muroph wrote:admin wrote:jacky wrote:Did you try the "Symbol" coloring scheme on Tag Column ? Using that you can reduce the Tag column to a very minimum, doesn't eat much space and still makes things easy to notice/work with (including right-click to set tags)
Plus you can
sort by tags!
good points!
i guess if i take 2~3 px from the other colums i might be able to use the tag symbol.
Costs you exactly 18 pixels...
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 10 Feb 2009 06:31
by Tamil
Can you add an option for numbering column (#) in colouring style?
Re: New "File Tags" feature
Posted: 10 Feb 2009 09:42
by admin
Tamil wrote:Can you add an option for numbering column (#) in colouring style?
Okay, later.
toggle in "find mode"
Posted: 11 Feb 2009 13:59
by Mayto
hi,
We tried the new tag feature - GREAT (Version 7.90.0100)
If i toggle tags in browse mode it works well.
But when i work in "find mode" i cannot toggle the tags ?
tag.dat: the green Files are not toggled
XYplorer File Tags v1
kontrollieren||FC7268;Änderung||F6AB46;in Arbeit||EFDC4A;freigegeben||B5D74A;bestellt||A6DCFD;alt||DDDDDD
0 500 208-04 Hülse 2.SLDPRTS:\KTS\DT\0500\|1|
0 500 208-06 Kappe.SLDPRTS:\KTS\DT\0500\|1|
0 500 208-06 Schraube.SLDDRWS:\KTS\DT\0500\|1|
0 500 208-06 Schraube.SLDPRTS:\KTS\DT\0500\|1|
S:\KTS\DT\0500\0 500 208-01 Grundplatte.SLDDRW|4|
S:\KTS\DT\0500\0 500 208-01 Grundplatte.SLDPRT|4|
S:\KTS\DT\0500\0 500 208-04 Hülse 2.SLDDRW|4|
best regards
thank you
thomas
Re: toggle in "find mode"
Posted: 11 Feb 2009 14:45
by admin
Mayto wrote:hi,
We tried the new tag feature - GREAT (Version 7.90.0100)
If i toggle tags in browse mode it works well.
But when i work in "find mode" i cannot toggle the tags ?
Indeed! Embarassing bug there!
Puuh, looks like I have to publish a maintenance release quick...
Re: toggle in "find mode"
Posted: 11 Feb 2009 15:49
by admin
admin wrote:Mayto wrote:hi,
We tried the new tag feature - GREAT (Version 7.90.0100)
If i toggle tags in browse mode it works well.
But when i work in "find mode" i cannot toggle the tags ?
Indeed! Embarassing bug there!
Puuh, looks like I have to publish a maintenance release quick...
Okay, should be fixed now in the recent BETA version.
Re: toggle in "find mode"
Posted: 12 Feb 2009 14:24
by admin
admin wrote:admin wrote:Mayto wrote:hi,
We tried the new tag feature - GREAT (Version 7.90.0100)
If i toggle tags in browse mode it works well.
But when i work in "find mode" i cannot toggle the tags ?
Indeed! Embarassing bug there!
Puuh, looks like I have to publish a maintenance release quick...
Okay, should be fixed now in the recent BETA version.
New official version v7.90.0120 (MAINTENANCE RELEASE) is uploaded.
Re: Toggle in find mode
Posted: 13 Feb 2009 09:07
by Mayto
Many thanks for that fast RELEASE.
best regards from tyrol
thomas