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Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 06 Jul 2014 17:20
by Stef123
Borut wrote:Stef, sorry for bad luck with your bug.
:cry: Thanks for the condolences. Won't have time this week to figure it out. Guess I'll just live with it - getting into the habit of some extra clicks - a little inconvenience far outweighed by the usefulness of this feature overall.
admin wrote:after 10 days of hard work, only interrupted by about 60 football games
:lol: :lol: Amazing how much you get done by watching soccer 9 hours a day - :shock: - Just imagine the increase of productivity you'd experience by watching 8 or 10 or 12 soccer games per day :biggrin: :mrgreen:

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 07 Jul 2014 20:36
by SkyFrontier
I'd like to have an option for a different approach on dealing with non-existant items, Don.
Great: currently PF simply removes the entry, updating the PFfile. But that should not be the right way for removable drives, for instance.
Moving those entries to the lower portion of the PFfile, marking them with leading exclamation marks which later are displayed in the list in red or have a red exclamation mark as icon could be a way to keep stuff simple yet functional.

This may have be already discussed and in case of so, someone please point me the headings as it's a 10-page thread, sorry!

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 07 Jul 2014 20:40
by admin
Phase 1 is finished. This is an idea for a later phase.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 07 Jul 2014 21:01
by Marco
XY is able to recognize and preview text files in UTF8 without BOM correctly. Can this smartness be given to the routine that parses the paper folders as well?

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 01:14
by Enternal
admin wrote:Well, it will probably stay. :)

So, ok, after 10 days of hard work, only interrupted by about 60 football games, 14.30 is about to be released! I don't know who else is still in the file manager business (or faking to be), but I think the release of XY 14.30 is a good moment for them to give up and start trying something else. :mrgreen:
I was thinking that at some time, you should stop releasing major versions for a while and don't focus on adding new features and instead, just focus on optimizing the code and have us help you more with hunting bugs so that XYplorer becomes a mean, lean, and fast machine. Then you release it out into the wild to chew on some poor city explorers.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 10:53
by admin
mean, lean, and fast machine ... that's always been my priority. And AFAIK I have achieved that, acc. to user feedback from 15+ years.

UTF8: PF phase 2.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 19:42
by Filehero
Cool,

I have found my first real PF use case today -> Creating a list of mission critical documents in a large project simply done by copy & paste. :D
I also noticed, that Marco afaik is using PFs as a sort of result adapter.

I'd like to get some more insights on what others here are using PFs for. So, what's your major usage scenarios?

Thanks & cheers,
Filehero

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 20:30
by TheQwerty
:bug: 1) Going to paper:Path\Nonexistent.txt offers to create the paper folder but fails to actually do so.
:bug: 2) Going up from paper:Path\Exists.txt attempts to take us to paper:Path\.
:bug: 3) The Open... command does not work if the file is not within <xypaper>.

EDIT:
The help topic on Paper Folder seems to use '<xydata>\Paper' - wouldn't it be more accurate to use '<xypaper>'?
In the SC reference the 'n' mode is indented too far and it might be worth mentioning 'name' is relative to '<xypaper>'.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 08 Jul 2014 21:43
by Stef123
"Always show path columns" (right-click PF button) does not work on my machine - I finally figured out why:

Say you have preferred widths for your columns - so you set up a default FVS with an enabled checkbox for "Column Layout" - this setting will prevent PF from bringing up the path column.
I uncheck "Column Layout" in default FVS - PF paths show up.
I tick "Column Layout" ON again - PF paths won't work anymore.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 06:06
by bdeshi
You can just go to a paper folder, show the path column, then create a new FVS with this folder filter:

Code: Select all

paper:*
to have all PFs show the path column

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 08:26
by admin
Stef123 wrote:"Always show path columns" (right-click PF button) does not work on my machine - I finally figured out why:

Say you have preferred widths for your columns - so you set up a default FVS with an enabled checkbox for "Column Layout" - this setting will prevent PF from bringing up the path column.
I uncheck "Column Layout" in default FVS - PF paths show up.
I tick "Column Layout" ON again - PF paths won't work anymore.
Yes, I gave preference to FVS.

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 08:54
by admin
TheQwerty wrote::bug: 1) Going to paper:Path\Nonexistent.txt offers to create the paper folder but fails to actually do so.
:bug: 2) Going up from paper:Path\Exists.txt attempts to take us to paper:Path\.
:bug: 3) The Open... command does not work if the file is not within <xypaper>.

EDIT:
The help topic on Paper Folder seems to use '<xydata>\Paper' - wouldn't it be more accurate to use '<xypaper>'?
In the SC reference the 'n' mode is indented too far and it might be worth mentioning 'name' is relative to '<xypaper>'.
Wow, triple bug! Triple thanks!

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 08:55
by Stef123
This is driving me nuts. FVS must be the culprit here. When I save fresh.ini (after running ::fresh;) and load this fresh.ini configuration - the PF paths still won't work.
admin wrote: Yes, I gave preference to FVS.
What does that mean? I cannot have both, FVS and PF path columns?
SammaySarkar wrote:create a new FVS with this folder filter:

Code: Select all

paper:*
to have all PFs show the path column
Instead of enabling "Always Show Path Columns"? Or in addition to it?

I don't want to clutter up this thread with issues of View settings.
Would you please reply over here: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12109

Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 18:17
by grindax
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Re: Paper Folders

Posted: 09 Jul 2014 18:23
by admin
That's what I fall back to when the shell menu fails.