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Try to play with the tabs "Home," "Lock Location," and "Lock Home Zone" settings. Those settings in the past caused some weird issues with icons.

EDIT: Been messing with the settings but just can't seem to reproduce that problem. That really is odd that you're getting that problem. What is the pattern that you use? How about exclusion?

admin wrote:

Regmos wrote:Found this over at RocketDock

Nice, but it's only the selected icon which is only used for the one selected folder in the tree. Much more useful would be the normal icon.

Hmmmm, here on my Win8 Pro machine the folder icon stays always the same not matter wether a folder is selected, opened or wether the focus is on the list or tree, and this is the same with the Windows File Manager.


Cheers,
Filehero

Back to my problem with tabs having nonlocal locations at the time of icon redefinition...

I am testing this with a pattern:

xxx\>C:\XYTEST\XYplorer.exe

i.e. all folders named exactly xxx should bear the XY icon.

Just to make myself clear once more: all matching logic works as expected all the time, except immediately after redefining the icon. So, if I would change the icon in the upper definition, click OK on the dialog, then - only on my particular installation - on all tabs showing network locations I see neither the XYplorer icon, nor the new icon, but the standard icon. As soon as I change location and then go back (to the network XXX folder) everything is as expected - I see the newly defined icon. (This I have to do for all tabs that had location XXX at the time of the icon redefinition.)

In a clean install everything is as expected everywhere, at all times.

I think I got it. You have these two ticked, right?

Configuration | Refresh, Icons, History | Icons | Use generic icons for super-fast browsing
Configuration | Refresh, Icons, History | Icons | But only in network locations
...

Fixed!

Yep, that was exactly the case.

Fixed indeed - thank you!!

Sorry for not answering earlier - had a relatively good weather here.

Hi,

though I'm still free of any deeper icons knowledge I've could manage to generate some colored Widows 8 folder icons.

I've used IcoFX portable to extract the original set from shell32.dll and for colorization. @Don: Is it a problem to have the original extracted MS icons provided in the uploaded zip?


Cheers,
Filehero

Cool! I can use them for my Win7 promo screenshots (the icons have not changed since Vista).

And only now I noted that Win7 does not have different icons for selected/non-selected folders anymore! If I could rely on that I could speed up tree browing a bit for post-WinXP OS. But MS docs don't say that SHGFI_OPENICON usage has stopped in Vista and Co.

Filehero wrote:@Don: Is it a problem to have the original extracted MS icons provided in the uploaded zip?

No, don't think so.

admin wrote:But MS docs don't say that SHGFI_OPENICON usage has stopped in Vista and Co.

Hmm, why not just asking the people here? An exception from this "rule" should be revealed quite quickly.

I'm quite sure this "open/closed" visualization paradigm is completely gone. At least, there's no such an "open folder" icon in shell32.dll anymore. Well, actually it is more like there are only "open" folder icons that are used for all folders now.

admin wrote:No, don't think so.

Fine.


Cheers,
Filehero

I would also be happy under WinXP to get some more speed traded in for the distinction between opened/closed folder icon. Maybe a tweak?

Borut wrote:I would also be happy under WinXP to get some more speed traded in for the distinction between opened/closed folder icon. Maybe a tweak?

Oh, it's just microscopic. You'd need an atomic clock to measure it. The tweak would cost more speed than it would gain.

admin wrote:Less than 12 hours, from scratch. (Followed by one week of refinements.)

Well, the glitches are countless. <need "sweat" emoticon> Currently I fix about 2 bugs an hour and this is going on for some days now non-stop. But it's worth it. The feature is a hit. OK, the configuration is lacking from the POV of the layman ("XYplorer Icon Path" <xyicons>\>SmileyHearts.ico -- typing sth like this will already frighten away many users). But, once the config is done, the visual functionality (avoiding the term "effect" which is really too flat for this) is just brilliant. And there is nothing else to do or to learn. The feature is simply there for you and works for you. All you have to do is sit and watch. As simple as TV.

admin wrote:As simple as TV.

We use T-Home Entertain via D-Lan having two electric circuits in our appartment. I can tell you what is easier to setup!


Cheers,
Filehero

@ Borut & Don
That's very interesting! I had those two ticked as well but did not have any issues with the icons. Oh well, Borut's problem is now gone so it's all good.

EDIT: Filehero, thanks! More icons to add to the arsenal heh.

admin wrote:But it's worth it. The feature is a hit.

For sure. No more "dammit, just deleted the original instead of the USB stick copy - wth did I have to press <del> plus <shift> "-events anymore.
Together with Tree Path Tracing, 6/4 Keys Navigation and SC this is the function I will benefit the most from during daily XYing.

admin wrote:OK, the configuration is lacking from the POV of the layman ("XYplorer Icon Path" <xyicons>\>SmileyHearts.ico -- typing sth like this will already frighten away many users).

I still do think a careful collection of optional examples would do the trick to motivate at least some geeks to spent more time on getting the "descriptor language". These example configs could just be supplied as default configs. Upon activation they simply serve as templates that an can be deleted anytime (if a Restore Defaults-action is available).

Obviously, those example configs must refer to paths that are very likely to be present on any "uncorrupted" windows installation. Maybe 3 examples for folders and files each?

Folder suggestions
- C:\Users\${user}\Documents -> nice icon
- C:\Users\${user}\Pictures -> nice icon
- C:\Temp -> nice icon

File suggestions
- *.mp3|*.wav or *.jpg|*jpeg|*.gif|*.png or *.doc|*.xls or *.htm|*.html-> nice icon
- *.ini|*.sys -> nice icon
- *.xys -> THE icon (I really hope for a nice one here)


My general take on this
Pattern based stuff is surely for the advanced only, because it essentially requires deeper commitment to some in-depth learning.

But I guess, most people ("laymen") will only like to change icons for
- file types/extensions
- explicit/dedicated folders
- complete drives

And these can be technically mapped to
- pick icon (aka inputfile, common action)
- pick path (aka inputfolder, for drives and folders)
- pick or add list entry (for file types/extensions)

Presented by a sort of simple wizzard this might could be realized with a manageable effort on top?
Of course, I would await the first user feedback upon official release.


Cheers,
Filehero