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Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 11:57
by Borut
Hi! I like the Glider and it really seems to have potential. Eil's proposal of the visual appearance of target and hot area seemed very nice to me. I am sorry to read that those will not be considered for implementation. There are another two things that I would very much welcome: 1) Possibility of defining the width of the hot area, irrespective of the buttons' size, in [px]; 2) Possibility to define the initial delay, in [ms]. To me the current delay seems to be too long. :) Thank you for consideration.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 12:07
by admin
klownboy wrote: 07 Sep 2023 11:41
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 11:33 By "it will" I meant the future.
Oops sorry.

Don, would there be some value for those who would like bigger or smaller hot zones to break the tie-in for small, large, extra-large zone sizes from the button sizes? This way someone who wants a small button could have a large or extra hot zone and vice versa.
In principle, yes, but I find the connection quite elegant and logical.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 12:09
by admin
Borut wrote: 07 Sep 2023 11:57 Hi! I like the Glider and it really seems to have potential. Eil's proposal of the visual appearance of target and hot area seemed very nice to me. I am sorry to read that those will not be considered for implementation. There are another two things that I would very much welcome: 1) Possibility of defining the width of the hot area, irrespective of the buttons' size, in [px]; 2) Possibility to define the initial delay, in [ms]. To me the current delay seems to be too long. :) Thank you for consideration.
125 ms is too long? You are a busy man. :)

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 12:35
by klownboy
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 12:07
klownboy wrote: 07 Sep 2023 11:41
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 11:33 By "it will" I meant the future.
Oops sorry.

Don, would there be some value for those who would like bigger or smaller hot zones to break the tie-in for small, large, extra-large zone sizes from the button sizes? This way someone who wants a small button could have a large or extra hot zone and vice versa.
In principle, yes, but I find the connection quite elegant and logical.
No question on the logic for the button size to hot zone size tie-in, but I still think (and others have also mentioned this also) there's benefit to breaking the logic and have right- click option for button size - small, large, and extra-large and a separate option for hot zone width - small, large, and extra-large.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 12:43
by admin
Yeah, already on it. :)

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 13:41
by xy123
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 09:22
xy123 wrote: 07 Sep 2023 00:21 Is this a bug with <g_path> or am I doing it wrong?

This script button works:

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::run """C:\Bla Bla\menuApp.exe"" ""<g_path>""";
This script button doesn't work:

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::run """C:\Bla Bla\ShortPopUp.exe"" /startdirectory ""<g_path>""";
Maybe of some interest is that this works for folders without space in their path:

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::run """C:\Bla Bla\ShortPopUp.exe"" /startdirectory <g_path>";
"doesn't work"... can you elaborate?
By doesn't work I mean <g_path> doesn't get expanded to real path. In first example it gets expanded, in second doesn't and in third example it gets expanded but only for folders without space in their path.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 13:47
by eil
Tiny strange thing noticed: first run, default settings, Glider is vertical; close app changing nothing and run again = Glider horizontal. Same change happens if on first run change anny settings of Glider - becomes horizontal too. No a big deal, but may disturb users.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 14:00
by Borut
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 12:43 Yeah, already on it. :)
v24.90.0111: Yay, thanks Don!! Hover zone size and initial delay: Great! For my old eyes, this is what I use, just as an example: Hover zone: Both Edges, Extra Large; Initial Delay: 1 :) ; Snap to Edge. Button Size: Large.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 14:15
by GreetingsFromPoland
Borut wrote: 07 Sep 2023 14:00 v24.90.0111: Yay, thanks Don!! Hover zone size and initial delay: Great! For my old eyes, this is what I use, just as an example: Hover zone: Both Edges, Extra Large; Initial Delay: 1 :) ; Snap to Edge. Button Size: Large.
yes! i agree and appreciate these new settings ! plus the ability to change the color from a previous beta. pretty amazing work.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 14:23
by klownboy
Hey nice changes in beta 24.90.0111. :tup:

I think there may be an issue with the Glider flashing though. For testing, I set my button size to small, the hot zone size to extra large, initial delay 100, and right side only. When I move the mouse on a tree item that has plenty of space between the right edge of the folder name and the right side of the tree, you can see the Glider flashing even though I'm moving in a straight line horizontally. It may be flashing as you pass through the various hot zone sizes though I'm not sure.

Edit: corrected typo and I forgot to mention I have "snap" on though the flashing occurs with snap off as well.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 17:55
by admin
xy123 wrote: 07 Sep 2023 13:41 By doesn't work I mean <g_path> doesn't get expanded to real path. In first example it gets expanded, in second doesn't and in third example it gets expanded but only for folders without space in their path.
:? Cannot reproduce.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 17:56
by admin
eil wrote: 07 Sep 2023 13:47 Tiny strange thing noticed: first run, default settings, Glider is vertical; close app changing nothing and run again = Glider horizontal. Same change happens if on first run change anny settings of Glider - becomes horizontal too. No a big deal, but may disturb users.
Bug.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 17:58
by admin
klownboy wrote: 07 Sep 2023 14:23 I think there may be an issue with the Glider flashing though. For testing, I set my button size to small, the hot zone size to extra large, initial delay 100, and right side only. When I move the mouse on a tree item that has plenty of space between the right edge of the folder name and the right side of the tree, you can see the Glider flashing even though I'm moving in a straight line horizontally. It may be flashing as you pass through the various hot zone sizes though I'm not sure.

Edit: corrected typo and I forgot to mention I have "snap" on though the flashing occurs with snap off as well.
Yes, I see it too. Bug.

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 19:42
by admin
I wonder if the script part should work like the hamburger in the breadcrumb bar?

Re: The Glider™

Posted: 07 Sep 2023 20:08
by xy123
admin wrote: 07 Sep 2023 17:55 :? Cannot reproduce.
It seems ShortPopUp needs "working directory" parameter, so I added it, but still not working:

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::run """C:\Bla Bla\ShortPopUp.exe"" /startdirectory ""<g_path>"", ""C:\Bla Bla\""";
Did I make a mistake, because ShortPopUp still thinks that my <g_path> is my current tab path?

I have enabled "Step Mode" in Scripting and everything looks good:

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run
"C:\Bla Bla\ShortPopUp.exe" /startdirectory "D:\Music\", "C:\Bla Bla\"
EDIT 1: Really confused, but I give up, something is probably wrong with ShortPopUp which is from 2003.

EDIT 2: Unbelievable, I have been using ShortPopUp command line completely wrong for years, but for some weird reason everything worked just fine in FileMenu Tools. Huh, here is the working script button:

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run """D:\Bla Bla\ShortPopUp.exe""", <g_path>;
EDIT 3: Sorry everyone for wasting your time.