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[admin]

Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0042, 15-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0042 - 15.01.06 10:46
    + Menu View: added command "Show Address Bar".
    + Address bar now has the same font (and font size) as tree and 
      list. Use menu View/Font to set it.
    ! Toolbar tooltips misplaced when address bar visible. Fixed.
    + Preview Tab, tool menu for audio/video: added commands 
      "Start/Pause Playing" (Space) and "Go to Beginning" (Shift+Space).

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Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0041, 14-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0041 - 14.01.06 14:47
  +++ Added address bar. The following characteristics should be nothing 
      but expected:
      - Locations entered via address bar are stored in the bar's 
        dropdown list (up to 64 items; last on top), and, of course, 
        between sessions.
      - There's auto-complete functionality as is typical for address 
        bars: when you start typing a location into the address bar, it 
        shows you a list of places (sorted alphabetically) you've gone 
        to before that match what you've typed so far.
        Note that a match here means a match of string beginnings. So 
        typing "c" (or "C", case does not matter) will not bring up 
        "D:\C..." but only locations *starting* with "C". Other ways are 
        thinkable...
      Less expected might be this:
      - To delete a particular item from the address store, have it 
        listed in the auto-complete list, then select it using arrow keys, 
        then press <Del>.
      - There's no "Go" button. Selecting a list item or pressing 
        <enter> will make you go.
      Note further:
      - Synch with "Go to" (Ctrl+G) is planned but not yet perfected.
      - In the coming version you will be enabled to hide it... :)

[admin]

I have all the boxes checked, and I still have to do "F4" every time to get the Tree updated with the changes.

What kind of changes?

Usually a folder added or a folder deleted.

Sometimes CD-ROM or DVD-ROM changed.

Mystery. This function works since years.

[The_Dude]

I have all the boxes checked, and I still have to do "F4" every time to get the Tree updated with the changes.

What kind of changes?

Usually a folder added or a folder deleted.

Sometimes CD-ROM or DVD-ROM changed.

[admin]

I have all the boxes checked, and I still have to do "F4" every time to get the Tree updated with the changes.

What kind of changes?

[The_Dude]

Regardless of the wording, right now the Auto-refresh feature doesn't work.

I have all the boxes checked, and I still have to do "F4" every time to get the Tree updated with the changes.

Beta Version 33
WinXP Home SP2

PS I indeed ended up unchecking the Network box, because it did indeed slow up things.

[admin]

Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0040, 11-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0040 - 11.01.06 22:02
    * Updated parts of the help file. Especially the Keyboard Shortcuts 
      and Mouse Tricks section, and some of the main menu commands. 
      There's still lot to do, I know.

[admin]

2) Remove "(menu Go)" from "Clear history on exit" because: Now that history is available via down-arrows, the Go menu ref is incorrect. And I think anyone would understand what history is and isn't...if not, clarify in Help file.

Correct!

[j_c_hallgren]

Ok, I'll concede..."Calculate Folder sizes" works for me as second choice...it's definitely better than original text..Thanks!!!

Notes to Admin/Don for the "whenever I'm bored and have a chance" list: 1) Add that string to the HELP file (and index) with a desc of what it does.
Also update the Keyboard shortcuts with revised text.
Which implies...another "fix" --> moving the desc of "F4" and "F5" from the Edit menu to View menu in the help file.
2) Remove "(menu Go)" from "Clear history on exit" because: Now that history is available via down-arrows, the Go menu ref is incorrect. And I think anyone would understand what history is and isn't...if not, clarify in Help file.

[JoDeCologne]

I believe the choices as I proposed would be clear and understandable by most all users, including newbies/dummies...

Could some other all users, including newbies/dummies, comment, please. It's always good to hear a 2nd opinion.
My own suggestion still stands (while the wording can surely be improved):

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Auto-refresh on file system changes 
  Include network locations

I like your solution best - it's easy to understand and, as far as I understand, technically sufficient.

[admin]

Note: I have very little time at the moment. All your posts are read and will be answered, but a bit slower than usual...

Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0038, 10-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0038 - 10.01.06 09:35
    ! Toolbar, history buttons: fixed a number of glitches.
    * Toolbar, history buttons: now the arrow-dropdown-menus align to 
      the bottom left of the toolbar buttons, and with a second click on 
      the button you can close them.
    * Toolbar, history buttons, arrow-dropdown-menus: now the "back" 
      menu just shows previous history items, and the "fore" menu just 
      next history items. Just as you know it from other apps.
      The right-click context menu shows all history items.
    * Menu View: renamed "Show Folder Sizes for Now" to "Calculate 
      Folder Sizes".
    * Configuration/General: renamed "Forget history" to "Clear history 
      on exit".
    - Menu Go: removed "experimental new history feature" from 
      v3.60.0024 ("only if you stay at least 2 seconds in a location it 
      will be permanently stored in the history").
      Now every browsed location is uncondintionally added to the 
      history.

[admin]

"Clear History on Exit"

Yep, that's it!

Some users may prefer only a few entries, so as maybe, to not obscure view of tree while showing, or for some other unexplained reason.

Naah, a touch too much "configurability" for my taste.

[admin]

I'd go for something like "Calculate folder sizes", I think it means will do it now, wont stay, etc...

Hey, I came out of the shower this morning with exactly this idea! Maybe Shift+F5 is not optimal, because F5 implies Refresh, but I won't change it, it's in long enough to merit persistence.

BTW it seems sometimes XY "forgets" a location, like if I use a favorite to go to R:\ and then quickly go to R:\Folder I will not have R:\ is the history. Don't know if it's something done on purpose or not, but it can be quite annoying/confusing at times, cause you hit back and aren't where you were before, but where you were before that. And it's not always just a parent folder like in my example, can be a completely different location

Yes, it's on purpose! I added (20040903) a little time delay check to avoid that locations are added to the list, where you are only so short a time (hardcoded to < 2 sec) that it can not be considered "being there". It bugged me ever since!! Since it's not documented anyway, and with your kind permission, I just take it out again! It's just one of those "smart" features nobody needs...

[CyGho]

Could some other all users, including newbies/dummies, comment, please.[/b] It's always good to hear a 2nd opinion.
My own suggestion still stands (while the wording can surely be improved):

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Auto-refresh on file system changes 
  Include network locations

For me it's only important to exclude (wireless) network locations and i mean mapped drives by that. XYplorer is totaly useless if i include wireles mapped drives. Well even if they are exlude it's way to slow on long listings but i need some functions XYplorer has witch Explorer has not.

[j_c_hallgren]

I for one wouldn't like the "refresh" idea either, since it implies that it's something XY usually do, and you'll just refreh it. I'd go for something like "Calculate folder sizes", I think it means will do it now, wont stay, etc

Given that the term/phrase used to describe the display of folder sizes is "Show" (via the Shift), and that a refresh is implied (via the F5), and that we need to define that it is NOT a toggle (which the text w/o "for now" did, to me), but a one-time thing, that's why I combined the two.

Thus stating that you want a F5 refresh, but adding the 'Shift' Show folder size to it, so maybe "Refresh + Show Folder Sizes" or "Refresh & Show Folder Sizes"?
Remember, what we're trying to provide is only a clear hint of what action to do...the docs would spell out in a bit more detail exactly what is going on.