Problems with navigating with keyboard

peterbonge · Post by **peterbonge** » 30 Aug 2004 16:10

If I have a folder named "TreeCAD" and I want to navigate to this folder I type "T-R-E" and all is fine. But if I type "T-R-E-E" it jumps to "Eigene Dateien"...

Post by **admin** » 30 Aug 2004 16:16

peterbonge wrote:If I have a folder named "TreeCAD" and I want to navigate to this folder I type "T-R-E" and all is fine. But if I type "T-R-E-E" it jumps to "Eigene Dateien"...

If there's a match any subsequent keyboard inputs start a new search. "T-R-E" did find "TreeCAD", the next "E" started from top and found "Eigene Dateien". It's a feature.

peterbonge · Post by **peterbonge** » 30 Aug 2004 18:08

I don't know if this feature really makes sense:

1. It's not like in other file managers and like in the Explorer.
2. Assuming you have the folders "Tree1" to "Tree100". You can't navigate to a specific folder with the keyboard (except with the arrow keys)...

And: With TrackerV3 you have to type faster than with the Explorer.

Post by **admin** » 30 Aug 2004 18:42

You're right, I put that on my list. Thanks!

Post by **admin** » 30 Aug 2004 19:51

I managed it -- very interesting programming task!

peterbonge wrote:And: With TrackerV3 you have to type faster than with the Explorer.

In TrackerV3 you have (or had, see below) 0.5 seconds for each keypress; if you take longer the pressed key is taken as the first letter of a fresh search term.
I could not find any information about Explorer's exact timing, but surely, as you said, you can type slower there.
Because, as everybody knows, ultimate happiness lies in peace and tranquility, I raised the allowed time to 0.75 seconds! Spread the word: Relaxed navigation with TrackerV3.

peterbonge · Post by **peterbonge** » 31 Aug 2004 12:22

Thanx! But I found another problem: Signs and spaces are not recognized. In the programs folder if I type "Online-D" it stops at "Online Services" and not at "Online-Dienste". And if I type "Windows N" it stops at "Windows Media Player" and not at "Windows NT"...

Another Problem: At folders with a lot of files/subfolders it sometimes scrolls so much that there is much empty space at the bottom (when navigating with the keyboard). Then I can't scroll to the top anymore. I have to refresh the folder first.

Post by **admin** » 31 Aug 2004 12:36

You'll have to do without signs and spaces. Use the arrow keys to solve your problems.
EDIT: space and "-" is possible, and that's about it.

peterbonge wrote:Another Problem: At folders with a lot of files/subfolders it sometimes scrolls so much that there is much empty space at the bottom (when navigating with the keyboard). Then I can't scroll to the top anymore. I have to refresh the folder first.

Cannot reproduce.

Post by **admin** » 31 Aug 2004 18:56

admin wrote:Cannot reproduce.

... I thought, but then I could! And I also could fix it. See next BETA...

Gandolf · Post by **Gandolf** » 27 Sep 2004 09:26

I've found another problem with keyboard navigation.
If I have files named 111-XXXX typing 1 1 1 simply moves to file 100- and then steps through the 100- sequence of files. Typing 1 1 1 - finds the first file named 111-XXXX.
It would appear that if the same character is typed repeatedly it is not recognize as a string of characters but as individual characters, so jumps to the next occurrence of the filename starting with that character.
I also noticed that numbers on the NumPad are not recognised, only the numbers on the main alpha keyboard - not important now I know which number keys to use.

Post by **admin** » 27 Sep 2004 09:45

Gandolf wrote:It would appear that if the same character is typed repeatedly it is not recognize as a string of characters but as individual characters, so jumps to the next occurrence of the filename starting with that character.

That's about what happens, more correctly: if the same first character is typed repeatedly... It's inherent to the method behind this feature; try it in Explorer and you'll see that it behaves just the same.

Gandolf wrote:I also noticed that numbers on the NumPad are not recognised, only the numbers on the main alpha keyboard - not important now I know which number keys to use.

I'll look into that...

Gandolf · Post by **Gandolf** » 27 Sep 2004 10:04

admin wrote: try it in Explorer and you'll see that it behaves just the same

I would have thought that was a good reason for making TrackerV3 work better!!

Post by **admin** » 27 Sep 2004 10:26

Gandolf wrote:
admin wrote: try it in Explorer and you'll see that it behaves just the same
I would have thought that was a good reason for making TrackerV3 work better!!

It's not about "better". What you perceive as a bug is actually a feature. It allows you to quickly single-step by keyboard (even by holding down the key) through lists of files with the same first letter.

Additionally, there's this sophisticated not widely known behavior: once you type a different letter, the whole sequence is compared to the file names. Take this list:
011.txt
110.txt
111.txt
112.txt
Start with first item focused.
Type 1 1 1, and you'll end up at the last file. (pattern 1, 1, 1)
Type 1 1 0, and you'll end up at the second file. (pattern 110)

So, just as you found out, in your case the solution is: Typing 1 1 1 - finds the first file named 111-XXXX.

Gandolf · Post by **Gandolf** » 27 Sep 2004 16:29

Just seen the latest beta, thanks for the NumPad keys - I use numbers a lot in filenames and get used to using the NumPad.

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