shift +F8

[graham]

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XYplorer 7.30 has been released on 30-Jun-2008. Here's a quick introduction to the main new features:
After two years of continuous development Catalog-Based Browsing finally takes over: Now you can hide and switch off the Tree by a quick Shift+F8, and browse via Catalog only.

maybe a stupid question but on my config file shift+F8 is a free

how do I get this to work?

[bergfex]

maybe a stupid question but on my config file shift+F8 is a free

how do I get this to work?

Maybe I got your question wrong... but just go to Tools > Customize Keyboard Shortcuts: Category "Window" and assign "Shift+F8" to "Show Tree".

[jacky]

New KS aren't assigned by default, to avoid conflicts since you already have your own set of KS.

To assign it, simply go to CKS, select Window|Show Tree, and press Default.

[graham]

Thanks -

The reason for asking is that when new default keys are announced then for existing users it seems to me that maybe the assignment should be made and if in conflict alert the user at the time.

Ok, stupid question but it is very easy to miss out on new features for users who update only occasionally.

[admin]

Thanks -

The reason for asking is that when new default keys are announced then for existing users it seems to me that maybe the assignment should be made and if in conflict alert the user at the time.

Ok, stupid question but it is very easy to miss out on new features for users who update only occasionally.

Yeah, we had that discussion elsewhere recently. I decided it's not worth the effort, for two reasons:
(a) It's not that often that new KS are added.
(b) It's not that often that old users don't know how to handle this situation.

[graham]

at the risk of following ivan with multiple posts


In this particular case a possible wish - dropp the shift+F8 and making f8 cycle windows rather than toggle -

[admin]

at the risk of following ivan with multiple posts


In this particular case a possible wish - dropp the shift+F8 and making f8 cycle windows rather than toggle -

You mean
- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Nothing

?

Quite elegant but I bet not everybody will like this, including me.

[graham]

- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only

[serendipity]

+1 for that. But actually I would prefer this:

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- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Hide navigation panel (list only)

Those four serves all of us (unless someone actually likes the blank grey) and a toggle for them would be great.

[admin]

+1 for that. But actually I would prefer this:

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- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Hide navigation panel (list only)

Those four serves all of us (unless someone actually likes the blank grey) and a toggle for them would be great.

And the replace the current ones by this one toggle? No, I don't think that's good. Mind the future: There might be another yet unknown sub-panel coming to the NP...

[serendipity]

+1 for that. But actually I would prefer this:

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- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Hide navigation panel (list only)

Those four serves all of us (unless someone actually likes the blank grey) and a toggle for them would be great.

And the replace the current ones by this one toggle? No, I don't think that's good. Mind the future: There might be another yet unknown sub-panel coming to the NP...

No, I meant a separate entry in Miscellaneous category of CKS, if possible.

[j_c_hallgren]

+1 for that. But actually I would prefer this:

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- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Hide navigation panel (list only)

Having the ability to do this cycle via one key would be even useful for myself, who tends to use toolbar for as much as possible...Having F8 (in my case) toggle Cat on/off is not nearly as useful as being able to choose one the above four settings just by repeating same key...

[TheQwerty]

+1 for that. But actually I would prefer this:

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- Tree & Catalog
- Tree only
- Catalog only
- Hide navigation panel (list only)

Having the ability to do this cycle via one key would be even useful for myself, who tends to use toolbar for as much as possible...Having F8 (in my case) toggle Cat on/off is not nearly as useful as being able to choose one the above four settings just by repeating same key...

This would have been really easy to do in AHK before XY lost its smarts in dealing with the Nav panel.

Now you have to account for the expanse of gray space, which makes it annoying but not impossible to code.

EDIT: Okay, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I've added it to my AHK script found here: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 4068#24068

I used Ctrl+F8 and Ctrl+Shift+F8 to cycle forwards and backwards through the states.

[TheQwerty]

Well it was working but since those commands don't have static IDs, each and every new build of XY breaks it. With as frequent as that is I don't have the ability to keep things updated at all times.


That leaves three options:
1) Replace the SendMessage commands, by SendInput {Alt Down}W{Alt Up}... so that it simulates navigating the menubar. This is sloppy and I don't like it one bit.

2) Replace the SendMessage with a SendInput that sends the shortcuts keys for the commands. This is also sloppy and I have no way of relying on the shortcuts keys being the defaults, and I don't want to add config files or a gui to this.

3) We convince Don to at the very least use static IDs for these three commands, so that they don't change each time or to implement the feature himself.

Granted since no one has said anything about the hotkey and I don't find it that useful, perhaps I should just remove it...

[admin]

Well it was working but since those commands don't have static IDs, each and every new build of XY breaks it. With as frequent as that is I don't have the ability to keep things updated at all times.


That leaves three options:
1) Replace the SendMessage commands, by SendInput {Alt Down}W{Alt Up}... so that it simulates navigating the menubar. This is sloppy and I don't like it one bit.

2) Replace the SendMessage with a SendInput that sends the shortcuts keys for the commands. This is also sloppy and I have no way of relying on the shortcuts keys being the defaults, and I don't want to add config files or a gui to this.

3) We convince Don to at the very least use static IDs for these three commands, so that they don't change each time or to implement the feature himself.

Granted since no one has said anything about the hotkey and I don't find it that useful, perhaps I should just remove it...

All commands have static IDs! Which one do think changed? if that happened then it is a bug!