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thales
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XYplorer is taking a long time to open

Post by thales »

Hi,
It's a strange thing that started since the last update.
When launching XYplorer, it takes a very long time to open.
Something is happening in the background, sometimes taking 30 seconds. to show the main screen.
Any suggestion on that? Is it a bug, or what could it be?

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by highend »

Execute this from the address bar and show the content of the window, that'll pop up?
text get("loadtimes");
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thales
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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

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Can you teach me how to and where to execute "text get("loadtimes");"
Thanks

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

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By pasting the above command into the address bar and hitting the {ENTER} key...
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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

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Here is the screen; thanks for the help in getting it.

XY ver: XYplorer 26.30.0100 - Lifetime License Enterprise
OS: Windows 10, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045.4651 (10.0)
Loaded: 2024-08-12 23:43:59 in 30,925 ms
Threshold: 10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

0 ms: 156 ms - Start Load
163 ms: 35 ms - Load Language
198 ms: 35 ms - Load Settings
233 ms: 14 ms - Init Custom File Icons
247 ms: 28 ms - Init Controls
275 ms: 84 ms - Init Graphics
359 ms: 12 ms - Init Tabs
371 ms: 32 ms - Create Info Panel
403 ms: 59 ms - Set Interface Font
462 ms: 11 ms - Init Panes
503 ms: 10 ms - Init UDC and KS
514 ms: 15 ms - Layout Bars
536 ms: 36 ms - --- Show Window ---
580 ms: 40 ms - List 2 Browse: C:\
622 ms: 30,227 ms - Enumerating Shell Folder Objects: 61
30,857 ms: 63 ms - XY64 Init
30,925 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=16, Nodes=20, Expanded=2, Servers=2
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=No
Pane 1: Items=4/35, Network, Pane 2: Items=12/25, Catalog: Items=1
Tagged Items in Database: 0

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

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Don needs to comment on Enumerating Shell Folder Objects: 61, never seen this entry before
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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by admin »

Interesting.

1) What's TAMF?

2) After XY is finally loaded run this script through the address bar and post the returns: dlog;

3) Is there anything listed in the tree under the Network node?

4) If not, should there be anything listed in the tree under the Network node?

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by thales »

Hi,
1) TAMF is just a keyword I put with my questions to find them quickly after they are on the board.
2) "Yplorer 26.30.0100 - 30-Day Trial Version - Day 1 - Windows 10, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045.4651 (10.0) - 2024-08-13 19:20:16
3) yes, my two Qnap NAS

I have to say also after this question about the network that:
My connection to the NAS is by TB3. Also, I use "Thunderbolt to Ethernet, known as T2E" to connect my machine to the local network and the internet.
I use Qfinder from Qnap for this. I don't know if there is a problem with Xyexplorer connecting to the network when using T2E—something I can't confirm.
With Windows Explorer, the connection to my folders on the NAS is fast and reliable. It also seems fast when using "Xy" after it starts.

I disconnected the TB3 and left only my 1GB ethernet interface to connect to the NAS (use of standard Ethernet), and after executing "text get("loadtimes");"
got those results

XY ver: XYplorer 26.30.0100 - 30-Day Trial Version - Day 1
OS: Windows 10, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045.4651 (10.0)
Loaded: 2024-08-13 19:36:50 in 7,301 ms
Threshold: 10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

0 ms: 138 ms - Start Load
138 ms: 12 ms - Init Language
151 ms: 46 ms - Load Language
197 ms: 46 ms - Load Settings
243 ms: 30 ms - Init Custom File Icons
273 ms: 24 ms - Init Controls
297 ms: 89 ms - Init Graphics
386 ms: 11 ms - Init Tabs
397 ms: 32 ms - Create Info Panel
429 ms: 62 ms - Set Interface Font
491 ms: 10 ms - Init Panes
502 ms: 11 ms - Init Tree
521 ms: 6,354 ms - Enumerating Shell Folder Objects: 61
6,890 ms: 19 ms - Go Start Path: \\Black\
6,911 ms: 11 ms - Init UDC and KS
6,925 ms: 11 ms - Set LookIn Text
6,944 ms: 57 ms - XY64 Init
7,002 ms: 16 ms - Layout Bars
7,030 ms: 64 ms - --- Show Window ---
7,096 ms: 201 ms - XYcopy Init
7,301 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=21, Nodes=22, Expanded=3, Servers=4
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=No
Pane 1: Items=19/19, Network, Pane 2: Items=4/25, Catalog: Items=1
Tagged Items in Database: 0

This proves to me that is not the TB3 connection that is holding the start of Xyexplorer.

I hope those comments help to pinpoint the problem.

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by highend »

Don't tag your posts with arbitrary keywords in the title^^
Just click on the "Your posts" link in the upper right corner to see them...

Tick this:
Configuration | General | Startup & Exit | [x] No network browsing at startup
Save settings, start XY again

You think that T2E is not responsible for the delay after 24 seconds were shaved off from the startup time after you've had disabled it? oO
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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by Borut »

See the previous post by highend, but since I have written this already, here it is too:

You really need to start in a folder on the server?

Try experimenting with the following three settings (starting XY always anew):

Startup&Exit / No network browsing at startup
Safety Belts, Network / Assume that servers are available
Safety Belts, Network / Cache network servers
Win 10 Pro 64bit

thales
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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by thales »

Hi,
1. I'm sorry for any problem I may have created with the "TAMF." I'll not use them anymore.
2 Configuration | General | Startup & Exit | [x] No network browsing at startup seems to solve the problem, but also
Safety Belts, Network / Assume that servers are available
Safety Belts, Network / Cache network servers
Should I use all 3 of them or just the first?
Why am I having this kind of problem that doesn't happen in Windows Explorer? Is there a reason for that?
Thanks to all who helped me with this case.

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Re: XYplorer is taking a long time to open TAMF

Post by highend »

Assume that servers are available = If ticked, password protected servers won't popup a logon dialog anymore.
So you have to know if you can activate it or not.

The other two: Check them

Don't know anything about Qfinder or use a QNAP device myself, can't comment on that part...
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