Open files in the same order as sorted in XYplorer

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Ruben Keestra
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Open files in the same order as sorted in XYplorer

Post by Ruben Keestra »

When I open images in photoshop, they are opened in a different order than they are sorted in XYplorer. I would like to maintain the same sortorder. Is this possible in a future update? This is essential for my workflow in PS. I have to go back to Bridge now and it would be great if I could stay in XYplorer.

Thanks,

Ruben

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A bit more information on your workflow to open the files in PS might improve the answers you get.
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Re: Open files in the same order as sorted in XYplorer

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I'm not sure how the files are named, but could it be something as simple as the Configuration option under Sort and Rename where in XYplorer you can use Natural numeric sort order? Check or uncheck that option to see any difference in opening files in PS.
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My filenames are named: file-001, file-002, file-003 etc. When I open them in PS first file-003 is opened, than file-002, file-001. When I sort from 3 to 0 (in XYplorer) than they are opened like 003, 002, 001. I would like them to open just in my sort order: file-001, file-002, file-003. I get the impression the sort order when opened in PS changes.

I hope this makes more clear what I am looking for.

Thanks for the help.

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This goes back to Explorer's age-old tradition to handle the focused item before the other selected items.

If X marks the focused item:

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X file-001, file-002, file-003 -> sequence of processing: file-001, file-002, file-003
file-001, X file-002, file-003 -> sequence of processing: file-002, file-003, file-001
file-001, file-002, X file-003 -> sequence of processing: file-003, file-001, file-002
Here is a longer explanation of how Explorer does it (from the change log at v6.60.0010 - 2007-11-20 13:00):

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      Note: The order of items is determined by the focus and the 
      current sort order in the following way (which strictly follows 
      the standards set by Windows Explorer): the focused item is always 
      the first, the next items are the following items downwards until 
      the bottom, then the sequence wraps to the top of the selected 
      items until the cycle is completed. It sounds a bit confusing 
      but is very simple and logical, as you see in these 3 examples:
      Example 1:
        - item #1 focused item
        - item #2
        - item #3
      Example 2:
        - item #3
        - item #1 focused item
        - item #2
      Example 3:  
        - item #2
        - item #3
        - item #1 focused item
So you should ensure that the top file is focused and the sequence will be as you want it.

BTW, I'm myself not sure if I really like this behavior. Maybe it's time to leave the tradition at this point...

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Thinking about it, it seems the current way is helpful only if someone makes sure that the first file to handle is selected last. I'd expect that this doesn't happen really often. :mrgreen:

So I think it can be changed.
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Thanks for your help. I didn't realise Explorer was acting this way. But if I open a sequence file-001, file-002, file-003, file-004 with the focus on 001, they open in PS like: file-001, file-004, file-003, file-002. So something is going differently from what you say.

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This is not happening here. Can anybody confirm this?

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I tried again with different files and it behaves like this all the time. I don't know what causes this...

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Ruben Keestra wrote:My filenames are named: file-001, file-002, file-003 etc. When I open them in PS first file-003 is opened, than file-002, file-001. When I sort from 3 to 0 (in XYplorer) than they are opened like 003, 002, 001.
Hm - is this correct, or a typo? Seems sort order doesn't matter at all?

So please try again, then invert sort order, open again, and compare.
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Just checked File Explorer (Win 8.1) in various situations and learned that it is not as predictable anymore as it was in earlier Windows. There is an element of chaos here. Well, that's good news since it gives me the freedom to do something better and 100% predictable: Open the selected files in their current order, independent of the current focus. :tup:

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So, I should just be patient and wait for an update? Thanks for your time and replies! And a great program. I really love it.

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You will have to wait about 10 more minutes... :)

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A glass of whisky will get me through this time easily :) Thanks!

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Ah, it didn't make it to this update? That's a pitty!

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