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Batch rename popup selections (6.10.0071)

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 02:37
by lukescammell
You know how you can press CTRL and the left and right arrow keys and you jump from word to word in most text areas? This doesn't appear to be working in the batch rename window in 6.10.0071.

Re: Batch rename popup selections (6.10.0071)

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 03:06
by Muroph
lukescammell wrote:You know how you can press CTRL and the left and right arrow keys and you jump from word to word in most text areas? This doesn't appear to be working in the batch rename window in 6.10.0071.
I think this is related to what jacky said about word separators yesterday.
All chars except '\ : ? |' are recognized as word characters in the batch rename window, regex rename, copy to, move to, etc.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 03:40
by lukescammell
Could be related I guess, but even a space doesn't work in the batch rename currently (6.10.0071). Can someone else try this an confirm/deny it?

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 10:30
by serendipity
To be frank i never used that feature so much so did not notice it. But in the 6.20.0002 version the normal rename works as expected i.e. holding ctrl+left or right arrow jumps to next word. But in the batch rename it doesnt work.
Since you specifically said it doesnt work in 6.10.0071 version i assume it worked before and i believe it should be fixed if it does not work now.
Space works here fine.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 11:56
by lukescammell
Meh :/

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 12:28
by admin
Probably fixed. :)

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 13:43
by serendipity
Yup, fixed here.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 13:51
by admin
BTW, is "Preview Rename" a good title for that dialog? Or should it be "Rename Preview"? Or sth else?

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 13:56
by serendipity
For me "Preview Rename" is pretty clear.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 15:52
by Muroph
I think it should be 'Rename Preview", just like in audio preview, video preview, image preview, etc.

Also, looks like only spaces are considered word separators now.
Shouldn't chars like '_ , . [ ] ( ) \ |' be w.s. as well?

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 16:14
by admin
Muroph wrote:I think it should be 'Rename Preview", just like in audio preview, video preview, image preview, etc.

Also, looks like only spaces are considered word separators now.
Shouldn't chars like '_ , . [ ] ( ) \ |' be w.s. as well?
'Rename Preview" = yes, agreed!

chars: now it's the default. Should be identical to Explorer. Good or not, it is probably expected, which is a bit good :wink:

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 21:31
by jacky
admin wrote:'Rename Preview" = yes, agreed!
So do I :)

I just had to look at it regardless of your warning ;) and have a few thoughts :

- I really think there should be an indication that a preview will follow, not the actual rename operation. Even at least rename the button "Ok" to "Preview..."

- I don't know if you was it already or not, but going back on forth between Rename & Preview window do fill up the MRU, I believe it shouldn't

- I like the dupe alert in red, but I would have it in brackets though, to emphasis the whole thing, eg: "[Dupe!] filename"

- Speaking of colors, I think it'd be nice to have items not to be renamed in grey, to show they'll stay untouched

- Preview window: I'd have "Preview Rename" as window title, and recall the pattern on the "header" (white background), might be useful to track what is wrong with it while looking at the preview (esp. with regexp)

- You said no way to turn it off, I think some INI Tricks (ideally per-mode) would be nice though. Especially for all the "automatic" modes : Spaces to _, Url(Un)Escape, case changes, Set Extension, etc
I *really* don't want to be bothered with a useless preview there...

- Zebra stripping is nic, but why not use the List/Browse mode colors instead of some hard coded ones (I guess) ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 21:49
by admin
- I really think there should be an indication that a preview will follow, not the actual rename operation. Even at least rename the button "Ok" to "Preview..."
-> what about a 3rd button "Preview..." (default button) beside OK and Cancel? Would also help to not be bothered with a preview for the "automatic" modes.

- Speaking of colors, I think it'd be nice to have items not to be renamed in grey, to show they'll stay untouched
-> You mean in the new name list? Grey means disabled ... could be confusing.

- Preview window: I'd have "Preview Rename" as window title, and recall the pattern on the "header" (white background), might be useful to track what is wrong with it while looking at the preview (esp. with regexp)
-> yes, I thought about that. But once I display the pattern you ask for editing+preview on the fly! :wink: I know this is the way to go... later...

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 21:58
by jacky
admin wrote:-> what about a 3rd button "Preview..." (default button) beside OK and Cancel? Would also help to not be bothered with a preview for the "automatic" modes.
Yeah, that'd be perfect!
admin wrote:-> You mean in the new name list? Grey means disabled ... could be confusing.
Well... I don't know. Disabled or untouched kinda means the same here, as in items in grey would indicate there wouldn't be renamed, it's not really a new name, the renaming operation for this one won't occur, is "disabled" in a way...
admin wrote:-> yes, I thought about that. But once I display the pattern you ask for editing+preview on the fly! :wink: I know this is the way to go... later...
Yeah, sure. But let's say both on the fly are coming later, at least for now it could help make things easier (esp for regexp) ;)

batch rename extension

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 22:25
by graham
In 6-20-5
if you enter an extension it retains the original
text.txt
enter *.doc
results in text.doc.txt
likewise *. results in text..txt