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Re: Session Manager [v3.2]

Posted: 02 Aug 2015 15:17
by Regmos
Try this out for size.

I think it's OK, but, if needed, extra polish and additional shine will be added, when you release the final version 8)
SessionManager_da.zip
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Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 03 Aug 2015 00:54
by FluxTorpedoe
@hogaty
Thank you so much for the renewed work on your translation and updating it to SM v4!

@regmos
Thanks for the initiative and the hard work! And you did it without even having SM v4 on hand! :kidding:

@all
FYI, Session Manager English language file clocks at 1116 words for 209 lines (of non-duplicate syntagmas)! So, a big thanks to all existing and future translators! :appl:

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So, let's start with a teaser, Session Manager main menu in    Čeština ( :appl: Hogaty)    /    Danske ( :appl: Regmos)    /    Français ( :appl: Anon.):
SessionManager_ml.png
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And now, without further ado, here is… drum-roll…


#########################
### Session Manager v4.a2 ###
#########################


• REQUIREMENTS: XYplorer >= v15.00.0518 :!: (w/ User Defined Functions)
 — Previous version v3.2 (for XYplorer < v15.00.0518) available here
 — Previous version v2.71 (for XYplorer < v14.10.0104) available here

• INSTALLATION for first-time users / UPDATE from v2.x:
 — Please refer to first post / this post

• UPDATE » for non-english users:
 — Download one of the language files and extract it into the same folder as SessionManager.xys (language detection is automatic)
Note (if applicable): Temporary Session and Autosave might appear as regular sessions depending on translation. Just save again/delete obsolete.

• UPDATE » for all users:
 — Overwrite your existing SessionManager.xys with latest version
 — Recommended: Run SM and update your "Default Layout" (and "Default Toolbar" if applicable)

• TRANSLATORS:
 — We need your help! Please, see the dedicated post on the ML forum.

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Session Manager v4.a2 - Changelog
+++ Multilingual support
+ Added automatic saving of SyncBrowse and SyncScroll to layout sessions (if Advanced Layout Tools ON)
+ Added Autosave support to Temporary Session
+ Added scripting support to Temporary Session
* Clarified Autosave reset/on/off behavior
! Various fixes (of unprobable situations)
SessionManager.xys
(113.05 KiB) Downloaded 145 times
• LANGUAGES:
 — Čeština by HogatyUpdated 2015-08-18
 — Dansk by RegmosUpdated 2015–08–03
 — Italiano by Flora_RMCAdded 2015–08–18
 — French: Pending…

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English (for translators):
SessionManager_en.zip
(5.46 KiB) Downloaded 68 times
Updated 2015–08–18: Crash fix for translators only
Replaced brackets "{}" to "[]" in entry:
   sm.0006=00|{Layout Session}|--|{Layout Session}
New entry:
   sm.0006=00|[Layout Session]|--|[Layout Session]
to prevent crash in ITT for translators.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML]

Posted: 08 Aug 2015 22:40
by klownboy
Hi Flux, thanks for the update and including the Auto-Scroll sync business we discussed. Certainly not a big deal but I wanted to point out that your about boxes state the version is v4.a1 and it's obviously v4.a2. I do wish though that you could have kept the scroll sync feature as a separate option rather than tying it in with the toolbar option. I wasn't using the toolbar option (i.e., had no need really), but had to invoke it to get the scroll sync feature. Any easy way you could separate the two? Thanks.
Ken

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 18 Aug 2015 20:23
by FluxTorpedoe
@all
Along with updates for the Czech (2015-08-18) and Danish (2015–08–03) languages, we welcome the Italian language for Session Manager by Flora_RMC! :appl:
Don't forget to check them out in the post slightly above…

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klownboy wrote:Hi Flux, thanks for the update and including the Auto-Scroll sync business we discussed. […]
I wasn't using the toolbar option (i.e., had no need really), but had to invoke it to get the scroll sync feature.
Glad the Auto-Scroll/Browse works! :)

Regarding the toolbar aspect, in fact I had "rebranded" the entry, which was previously misleading:

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@all

• Now, in the "Options" menu, activating "Layouts: Enable Advanced Layout Tools":
  — automatically activates the saving of Auto-Scroll and Auto-Browse for layout sessions
  — only develops the "Layout Tools >" menu with more options (well, only one currently): the possibility to manually save the toolbar with a specific layout-session.

So there's no automatic toolbar saving happening behind the scenes, which means you can safely leave the "Advanced Layout Tools" option ON: it will only provide more layout options.
FYI, I had chosen to leave it optional and off by default to keep the layout menu clean for new users.

Hope this clarify things! 8)

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 30 Aug 2015 18:49
by nerdweed
Aren't you planning to upgrade this to the strict XY scripting rules?

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 02 Sep 2015 14:24
by FluxTorpedoe
nerdweed wrote:Aren't you planning to upgrade this to the strict XY scripting rules?
I'd totally overlooked this feature… Very pertinent idea, I like this as an valid update feature for v4!
I'm on it, will release a "strict" beta with the latest fixes in a few.

Until them, if some of you have terrific ideas, keep'em coming!

Have a nice day, 8)
Flux

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 02 Sep 2015 14:37
by autocart
nerdweed wrote:Aren't you planning to upgrade this to the strict XY scripting rules?
What is this? I searched but could not find.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 02 Sep 2015 15:00
by highend
It's in the help file
Syntax Checking

Tick it show a warning on dubious syntax. Recommended for debugging scripts.

Tip: You can suppress further validation for the current script by holding Ctrl while pressing "Continue" in the "Dubious Syntax" dialog.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 02 Sep 2015 15:31
by autocart
Thx.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 02 Sep 2015 21:45
by nerdweed
FluxTorpedoe wrote:
nerdweed wrote:Aren't you planning to upgrade this to the strict XY scripting rules?
I'd totally overlooked this feature… Very pertinent idea, I like this as an valid update feature for v4!
I'm on it, will release a "strict" beta with the latest fixes in a few.

Until them, if some of you have terrific ideas, keep'em coming!

Have a nice day, 8)
Flux
Great. Thanks

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 05 Sep 2015 00:46
by SkyFrontier
Hi, Flux.
Never cared much for session management - although I scripted a very simple one which now and then I run. Well. I care. Lots. But never focused enough to produce or found a solution which was unobtrusive enough for me to actually "use-it-without-noticing".

The thing I'm really currently into is auto-recording recent scenarios, at least with the minimum user participation as possible, as well as classifying the most used ones on top of the list along with the latest ones.

Can't say this'll be the best model for session managing but I'm really curious on what would be your approach on this, the optional layouts' save being my focus (ie, layouts being optionally restored when required).

I hardly believe SessMan will integrate these features in its current incarnation, so my suggestion contemplates a possible fork.

P.S.: I hate doing that: translation is flowing, slow but moving. Sorry, just have to dedicate my time to other stuff as of now. ETA: this weekend, national recess.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 06 Sep 2015 19:06
by FluxTorpedoe
Hi'
highend wrote:Syntax Checking[…]
Tip: You can suppress further validation for the current script by holding Ctrl while pressing "Continue" in the "Dubious Syntax" dialog.
Well, thanks from me too! Plus, I only knew it as a tweak… :biggrin:

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@SkyFrontier
No worries about the translation, I'm already glad you're doing it! :)

About your suggestion, I'm intrigued… and not really sure what you're after. Do you mean you'd like users to save tabsets+layout, with minimal interaction — like, a keyboard shortcut would auto-save a full session with a specific name, and would auto-order the session list?

Well, I'd really like if you could give a real case scenario…
It would help me understand how to implement some or all of it (or if it's really too distinct/heavy to justify keeping it for a fork project).

Have a nice day, 8)
Flux

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 08 Sep 2015 08:14
by SkyFrontier
FluxTorpedoe wrote: About your suggestion, I'm intrigued… and not really sure what you're after. Do you mean you'd like users to save tabsets+layout, with minimal interaction — like, a keyboard shortcut would auto-save a full session with a specific name, and would auto-order the session list?
Hi there, Flux. Missed your feedback, sorry.
When I started what later would culminate in surfYnXoard mod, I was mainly after maximum optimization for minimum interaction. Soon I became obsessed with the theme - in my point of view I was putting a train on a magnetic trail and that delivered me a whole set of tools allowing for even a minimum GUI.

More and more I miss a way to quickly retrieve a recent set, dual or single pane, either of a most used tabs or a most recent tabs, with or without companion pane data. So a basic requirement would be: the script auto-saving (on tab changing? time-triggered?) tab sessions and, on CKS, delivering a list to chose from, preferably making use of live filter which would allow to perform a quick search for specific strings present on given sessions.

Listed sessions could be recorded and presented on pairs when requested
"1wData"***"pane 1 tabs|pane 2 tabs"; //with data
"1tabs"***"pane 1 tabs|pane 2 tabs"; //tabs only
"2wData"***"pane 1 tabs|pane 2 tabs";
"2tabs"***"pane 1 tabs|pane 2 tabs";
"3wData"***"pane 2 tabs";
"3tabs"***"pane 2 tabs";

Scenario?
Each and every sys/xy restart I'd like to have a way to choose among either the most recently used sets of tabs or the most used ones, without the hassle of saving/naming them just to have a hard list of panes plenty of folders that no longer exist.
Last time I checked the panes' data could not be fully retrieved and needed to have saved settings so they were stored for later retrieval - thing I fully avoid, specially when recording that data would happen quite often, which in turn would led XY settings prone to get corrupted.

If your tech could read my subconscious memories and directly transmit such info in form of the tabs I'll need for the next session, ideally scanning the future to pick the ones I'll really make use of in a prioritization of what's more urgent to do, right to left, top to bottom, that would certainly be a plus. :ugeek:
:biggrin:

No rush here, but I'm really sick of thinking what would be the day when a session is smartly presented and picked, always fresh, minimum intervention, zero impact on settings.

Re: Session Manager [v4.a2 ML(3)]

Posted: 20 Sep 2015 14:51
by FluxTorpedoe
Hmm Hmm, :veryconfused: :eh: :kidding:
Still trying to wrap my mind around this!
Will get back to you!…

Re: Session Manager [v4.b1 ML(5)]

Posted: 24 Sep 2015 12:13
by FluxTorpedoe
 
#########################
### Session Manager v4.b1 ###         MultiLingual (5 languages)
#########################



• REQUIREMENTS: XYplorer >= v15.00.0518 :!: (w/ User Defined Functions)
 — Previous version v3.2 (for XYplorer < v15.00.0518) available here
 — Previous version v2.71 (for XYplorer < v14.10.0104) available here

• INSTALLATION for first-time users / UPDATE from v2.x:
 — Please refer to first post / this post

• UPDATE » for all users:
 — Overwrite your existing "SessionManager.xys" file with latest version
 — Recommended: Run SM and update your "Default Layout" (and "Default Toolbar" if applicable)

• UPDATE » for non-english users:
 — Download one of the language files and extract it into the same folder as SessionManager.xys (language detection is automatic)
Note (if applicable): Temporary Session and Autosave might appear as regular sessions depending on translation. Just save again/delete obsolete.

• TRANSLATORS:
 — New contributions are more than welcome!
 — Few (very) minor changes between v4.a2 and v4.b1.
 — @all, please head to the dedicated post on the ML forum for the changelog and latest english language file

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• DOWNLOADS:

› Script:
SessionManager.xys
(115.36 KiB) Downloaded 124 times
› Languages:
 — Čeština by Hogaty(v4.b1) Updated 2015-09-24
 — Dansk by Regmos(v4.b1) Updated 2015–09–25
 — Italiano by Flora_RMC(v4.b1) Updated 2015-10-02
 — Português (Brasil) by SkyFrontierAdded 2015–09–24
• NEW:
 — Français by pseudoz(v4.b1) Added 2015–09–28

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• CHANGELOG:

Session Manager v4.b1 — Updated 2015-09-24
*** Fully strict scripting compliant (Menu "Scripting" > "Syntax Checking")
* Temporary Session is now always listed last, also in "Delete" Menu
! Fixed misbehavior when saving (regular or temporary) session just after enabling Autosave
* Changed behavior of "Reset Autosave of current session" just after enabling Autosave
! Alert not showing when saving session under existing name
* Clarified status info of all Temporary Session operations
* Renamed "– Autosave –" to "•• Autosave ••" in menu for better legibility (esp. if enabled for Temporary Session))