Crossing the software Rubicon

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DixieCup48
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Crossing the software Rubicon

Post by DixieCup48 »

On the first day Summer the time has come to add my voice to a number of posts here. The tipping point has arrived to stop augmenting XYplorer and get to the real core issue. To be concise move on to 64 bits! This is given gravitas by the fact that Microsoft has announced it will terminate support for Windows 7 in January, 2020.

It is a fait accompli that the transition will be pernicious. But like a disease the longer the treatment is delayed the anguish will only increase possibly leading to a terminate result.

Leito
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Why do you need so much for XYplorer to be compiled to 64bits?

Honestly, I think a better argument to migrate XYplorer from VB6 to a recent and supported language would be to make it multi-threaded - to finally get rid of the freezes when a tab doesn't respond.

Delphine
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DixieCup48 wrote: 21 Jun 2019 17:26 It is a fait accompli that the transition will be pernicious. But like a disease the longer the treatment is delayed the anguish will only increase possibly leading to a terminate result.
And the first strong signal has just been released by Canonical: the next version of Ubuntu will only be available in X64 (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubunt ... 01261.html)

DixieCup48
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Your technical view of the impetus to upgrade is on the mark.

The motivation I have falls under the category of "As time goes by". Do you still light your home with kerosene lamps or have you upgraded to LED's? :P

Leito
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Delphine wrote: 24 Jun 2019 18:48 And the first strong signal has just been released by Canonical: the next version of Ubuntu will only be available in X64 (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubunt ... 01261.html)
Link is dead and no, that's not quite true:
in a forum reply on the Ubuntu Discourse, Langasek appears to row back on the notion that 32-bit libraries will be removed wholesale in the ‘Eoan Ermine’, writing:

“I’m sorry that we’ve given anyone the impression that we are ‘dropping support for i386 applications‘. It is simply not the case. What we are dropping is updates to the i386 libraries, which will be frozen at the 18.04 LTS versions.”
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/is- ... -after-all

Delphine
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I do confirm (copy from the previous link)

i386 architecture will be dropped starting with eoan (Ubuntu 19.10)
Steve Langasek steve.langasek at ubuntu.com
Tue Jun 18 15:36:45 UTC 2019

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Last year, the Ubuntu developer community considered the question of whether
to continue carrying forward the i386 architecture in the Ubuntu archive for
future releases.[1] The discussion at the time was inconclusive, but in
light of the strong possibility that we might not include i386 as a release
architecture in 20.04 LTS, we took the proactive step to disable upgrades
from 18.04 to 18.10 for i386 systems[2], to avoid accidentally stranding
users on an interim release with 9 months of support instead of letting them
continue to run Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with its 5 years of standard support.

In February of this year, I also posted to communicate the timeline in which
we would take a final decision about i386 support in 20.04 LTS[3], namely,
that we would decide in the middle of 2019.

The middle of 2019 has now arrived. The Ubuntu engineering team has
reviewed the facts before us and concluded that we should not continue to
carry i386 forward as an architecture. Consequently, i386 will not be
included as an architecture for the 19.10 release, and we will shortly begin
the process of disabling it for the eoan series across Ubuntu
infrastructure.


Sorry, it's just real world.

Leito
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Did you read the article I linked?

RalphM
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Post by RalphM »

And on top of everything why would we care what Ubuntu does?
Until M$ drops support for 32bit applications I'm quite happy with XY staying the way it is.
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

Delphine
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In the land of the lame everyone thinks he is walking right ...

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