Age Graphics

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Here's some more kangaroo fodder. And this is a killer feature, I know one when I see one. I smell the blood. And it's so easy. Does not even need a mockup screen shot. It's just like Size Graphics, but for the Modified (plus maybe Created, Accessed) column, and it shows the age as a colored graphic. Coloring is borrowed from leafs (bright green = young, via darker greens, to brown = old), every person understands this intuitively, it's paleo-knowledge. Instead of circles I plan to make vertical ellipses (vaguely suggestive of a leaf).

A similar thing is already possible now with Color Filters. But this will be so much easier. I see this becoming a global iconography of age.

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:appl: :appl: :appl: :tup:
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And people define what they consider, brand new, new, middle age, old, older, oldest, etc.?
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highend wrote:And people define what they consider, brand new, new, middle age, old, older, oldest, etc.?
Can be added in later phase. For starters I will define it.

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Am using that "leafs coloring scheme" in color filters for ages now (since ageM was introduced). The aging is surely depending very much on each user's business process. My groups are:

ageM: d //modified today
ageM: <=2 d // modified today and yesterday
ageM: <=4 d // modified 4 days ago
ageM: <=8 d // modified 8 days ago
ageM: <=15 d // modified 15 days ago
ageM: <=22 d // modified 22 days ago
ageM: <=33 d // modified 33 days ago
ageM: <=63 d // modified 63 days ago

I am surely not the only one already using the shades of green, yellow and brown that way. OK, with a new feature color filters may than be used for other things. But, without being able to define the actual time intervals it will not be very useful.

Why actually not expanding the color filter concept to destinguish between different fields, so that age colors would for instance be applied only on "last modified" column? Or is this perhaps already possible and I do not know it?
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Borut wrote:Why actually not expanding the color filter concept to destinguish between different fields, so that age colors would for instance be applied only on "last modified" column? Or is this perhaps already possible and I do not know it?
Not possible and not planned. :mrgreen:

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OK, I added it and it looks like this at the moment:
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I'm not totally happy with it though. In most of my real world file listings there is not much difference in the colors of the visible adjacent files, so it's totally useless. :(

There are 8 age classes:
future, minute (60 seconds), hour (60 mins), day (24 hours), week (7 days), month (4 weeks), year (365 days), older.

Any ideas for improvement?

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As long as it is not possible to define colors and the corresponding ages...

Atm it would require me to learn which of your colors belong to a specific time interval.
It doesn't work that way. At least not for me. Some people may like a dark color for older
things, some prefer e.g. a red one... And ages are user specific as well. Some need a 60s
setting, some would like to begin with an hour...

In the current state I'd rather switch it off, because it doesn't present any useful information to me
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And IF you could define colors and the corresponding ages... would you turn it on?

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I would. For a simple reason: I like this representation more than color filters.
Way less intrusive
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too bad i mostly use Thumbnail view to see all pictures and videos, so can't really feel the might of this feature.
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eil wrote:too bad i mostly use Thumbnail view to see all pictures and videos, so can't really feel the might of this feature.
Oh, that's still on my todo list. I will show it at the name in those views.

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tried feature in last beta - good idea to use some place "over file" leaving ability to fully use name area for other color filters. :tup: but there is a problem concerning Thumbnails view - in big sizes it seems to be ok, but in small(64x64), especially with long names, circles get on names and become problem to see either color or letters.
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not saying it's better or best, just a variant of solution:
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Borut wrote:Am using that "leafs coloring scheme" in color filters for ages now (since ageM was introduced). The aging is surely depending very much on each user's business process. My groups are:

ageM: d //modified today
ageM: <=2 d // modified today and yesterday
...
I am surely not the only one already using the shades of green, yellow and brown that way. OK, with a new feature color filters may than be used for other things. ...
1) ageM: <=2 d // actually this means modified in the future, today, yesterday OR 2 days ago, in calender days (not the last 24 hours)
< 0 is future
0 is today
1 is yesterday
2 is 2 days ago

2) Yes I would like to agree, however, since with the new ageCircles feature I can only "filter" by minutes and not by whole calender days, this unfortunately is no replacement for the filter above nor for my own, which looks similar. Besides, in my filter I like to check against the modified AND the created date, which is not possible here either (it obviously only checks against the modified date).

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Thanks for the input. It's a revolutionary feature, nobody has ever dnoe this before AFAIK, so it needs polishing and time to ripen.

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