Keyboard navigation "add/edit tags by list"

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rclkrtrzckr
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Keyboard navigation "add/edit tags by list"

Post by rclkrtrzckr »

Hi all

As a keyboard junkie and a tag lover, I found the way the "add/edit tag by list" selection box works a bit weird. What I would expect:

1. As soon as the popup opens, focus on the search :tup:
2. The search boxes' content modifies the list of tags above :tup:
3. The keys ""cursor up" and "cursor down" navigate through the selection. :tup:
4. Hitting "space" checks off the selected line :| (nope)
5. "Enter" sends the selection back to the tag list :tup:

Number 4 has, from my point of view, room for improvement. Of course, I could get used to press "TAB" in between, but why should I? XYPlorer sees that I'm navigating around in the list, so "space" should immediately check the box.

Just MHO. Demanding, as always, but please note the many :tup: above ;-) :biggrin: :appl:

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André

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Re: Keyboard navigation "add/edit tags by list"

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How do you think XY should decide whether a space is part of the search query or a request to toggle checking the item?

Should it be that the second a user presses up/down space becomes toggle?
Then how does the user get it to go back to typing a space?

It would certainly be useful to have a toggle shortcut but I'm not sure Space can be that shortcut.

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Re: Keyboard navigation "add/edit tags by list"

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TheQwerty wrote:How do you think XY should decide whether a space is part of the search query or a request to toggle checking the item?

Should it be that the second a user presses up/down space becomes toggle?
Exactly, that could be one solution.
Then how does the user get it to go back to typing a space?
Well, "TAB" maybe? Or "Backspace"? Needs to be defined/discussed.

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André

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I think using Space creates a lot of complications and I cannot think of a good way to make it work - maybe Don can.

That said, I do not see the same problems with Shift+Space or Ctrl+Space.
Neither is quite as intuitive or as consistent as Space would be but they keep things simple.

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I also immediately thought Ctrl+Space could do the job. So let's follow the intuition...

UPDATE: Somehow I cannot make Ctrl+Space work as desired. :veryconfused: What about a plan B: F4 (to toggle the current checkbox from the filter box)?

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Odd that Ctrl+Space will not yield.

I have no love for the F-row, so maybe wait until other opinions are voiced.

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The Space worked but I was not able to suppress the Space from being added to the box. Really odd. Lack of coffee? :eh:

Anyway, F4 works great. Revise your love. :cup:

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admin wrote:The Space worked but I was not able to suppress the Space from being added to the box. Really odd. Lack of coffee? :eh:

Code: Select all

if (some entry selected) && (space pressed) {
   (select entry);
   (remove last space from input box)
}
:D

SCNR ;)

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What a dirty hack, not my style! ;)

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Ah, I saw the solution now. 5 coffees were needed. Now Ctrl+Space behaves. :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :biggrin:

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Five :cup: in 16 minutes is fast.
Ralph :)
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F4 works perfectly, thanks a ton! :cup: :beer: :tup:

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admin wrote:The Space worked but I was not able to suppress the Space from being added to the box. Really odd. Lack of coffee? :eh:

Anyway, F4 works great. Revise your love. :cup:
One thing - what about "INS" instead of / in addition to F4? I assigned CTRL-SHIFT-T to "Set Tags". When navigating using the cursor keys, I found F4 to be quite far away.

Call me nit picking ;-)

The love is here, by the way :-D

Cheers

André

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Ctrl+Space works too...

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