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Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 09:21
by admin
Yep, confirmed that pdfxchange does not help in Win7/64.

I'm working on a solution.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 10:53
by Borut
admin wrote:Yep, confirmed that pdfxchange does not help in Win7/64.

I'm working on a solution.
Maybe it does not help under WinXP either?

I am using XYplorer 11.10.0002, Win XP Pro, SP3 32bit, PdfXChangeViewer 2.5 Build 200.0. On my system level it is defined to open PDF files with PdfXChangeViewer.

I am getting the thumbnails of PDF files in XY. I am getting PDF previews in the info panel, but only if floating preview is not opened.

If info panel preview is active, then the floating preview does not start.

When no info panel preview is active, then floating preview shows up with a note "No preview available".

Maybe these information help somewhat.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 11:04
by Marco
Don, you said some time ago that XY uses the IE plugin of the program used to read pdf's to generate thumbnails (or something like that).
Maybe if XY could search for other plugins installed on the system the problem could be mitigated (I, for example, use Firefox as web browser, and thus I have installed the Firefox version of PDFXchange viewer plugin).

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 11:04
by admin
Strange. We seem to have an identical system but different behavior. :?

Also with a fresh install? (PDF works fine here in every way imaginable.)

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 11:07
by admin
Marco wrote:Don, you said some time ago that XY uses the IE plugin of the program used to read pdf's to generate thumbnails (or something like that).
Maybe if XY could search for other plugins installed on the system the problem could be mitigated (I, for example, use Firefox as web browser, and thus I have installed the Firefox version of PDFXchange viewer plugin).
Some days ago I decided that PDF support currently is a bit of a mess. Installed readers, IE plugins, System config, OS... too many factors. So I began investigating a paid 3rd party solution -- I thing I never wanted to do, but I'm a flexible man... :) So, patience, I'm waiting for offers from several companies...

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 12:15
by Marco

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 12:21
by Borut
admin wrote:Strange. We seem to have an identical system but different behavior. :?

Also with a fresh install? (PDF works fine here in every way imaginable.)
Yes, also, but... I have been looking on it a bit more carefully: It seems that in info panel preview it is another PDF-Reader active and I suppose that it is Adobe Reader 9, that unfortunately seems also to be installed on my current system.
So I began investigating a paid 3rd party solution -- I thing I never wanted to do, but I'm a flexible man...
Hmm, I would also never ever go that path. I have no idea about these plug-ins, but, wouldn't it be possible to maintain in XY a list of tools/3rd party plug-ins to be used with file types for previewing, which user could maintain? I would at least like it that way the most, if at all technically possible (for instance to avoid Adobe in this case, if something else might do it).

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 21 May 2012 12:44
by admin
Sounds more complicated than simply making it work independent of any conditions.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 14:53
by admin
BTW, is here anybody on Win 7/64 where the PDF floating preview and PDF thumbnails work in XYplorer?

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 15:00
by TheQwerty
Seems to work here using Adobe Reader X I believe.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 15:49
by ale
I have working PDF thumbnails in Windows 7 64 bit with PDF-XChange Viewer, however out of the box I could not get thumbs in XYplorer in Windows 7 32 bit nor in 64 bit, only in Windows Explorer. Had to mess a bit with the registry.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 15:55
by admin
ale wrote:I have working PDF thumbnails in Windows 7 64 bit with PDF-XChange Viewer, however out of the box I could not get thumbs in XYplorer in Windows 7 32 bit nor in 64 bit, only in Windows Explorer. Had to mess a bit with the registry.
Mind sharing the bit? :)

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 16:12
by ale
Sure Don, I did something similar to what I described here for .flv viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7635
My notes are a bit fuzzy but after many experiments I think this modification gave thumbs in XYplorer

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\PDF-XChangeViewer.1\shellex\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}]
@="{B2F55D43-C7A4-4B7C-90D7-7A860DFA9F2A}"

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 17:25
by serendipity
admin wrote:BTW, is here anybody on Win 7/64 where the PDF floating preview and PDF thumbnails work in XYplorer?
Yes, like TheQwerty mentioned Adobe Reader X v10.1.3 i get thumbs in list and floating preview.
I don't get those in Win7/32. Any tricks anyone?
To summarize:

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OS                   Win7/32      Win7/64     
IP Preview             Y            Y              
List Thumbs            N            Y              
Floating preview       N            Y             

Just to clarify: I tried above with adobe and pdfxchange. For Win7/64 adobe reader is sufficient, having both is not necessary.

Re: floating preview doesnt show PDF here

Posted: 22 May 2012 20:24
by admin
ale wrote:Sure Don, I did something similar to what I described here for .flv viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7635
My notes are a bit fuzzy but after many experiments I think this modification gave thumbs in XYplorer

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\PDF-XChangeViewer.1\shellex\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}]
@="{B2F55D43-C7A4-4B7C-90D7-7A860DFA9F2A}"
Thanks, it works. :D (The preview is much smaller though than under XP, I wonder what controls this.)