questions about branch view
Re: questions about branch view
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Re: questions about branch view
Could the "Natural numeric sort order" be the culprit?
Ralph
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Re: questions about branch view
the sort order of these 5 folders is correct if "Natural numeric sort order" is deactivated
but i think it is bad to have a "a10.txt" file sorted above "a2.txt"
but i think it is bad to have a "a10.txt" file sorted above "a2.txt"
Re: questions about branch view
The thing is, I'm absolutely unable to recreate what you see in your screenshot.
The sort order for the testdata is always correct...
Try a fresh instance (::fresh; in the address bar)
The sort order for the testdata is always correct...
Try a fresh instance (::fresh; in the address bar)
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Re: questions about branch view
in the 18.90.0104 vesion which i downloaded 3 minutes ago:
the folder with 0-9 title is still displayed above other 4 folders (in branch view)
the folder with 0-9 title is still displayed above other 4 folders (in branch view)
Re: questions about branch view
I was not talking about a new version, just about starting your current one as fresh...in the 18.90.0104 vesion which i downloaded 3 minutes ago
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Re: questions about branch view
i typed ::fresh; in the address bar
pressed 'enter'
in a new xyplorer 'fresh' window went to the 'abc.def' folder
activated the 'branch view' mode
0-9 is again at the top
pressed 'enter'
in a new xyplorer 'fresh' window went to the 'abc.def' folder
activated the 'branch view' mode
0-9 is again at the top
Re: questions about branch view
Sorry, unable to reproduce that. The sort order here is just fine -> Can't help with that issue
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Re: questions about branch view
i'm trying to get used to the "Natural numeric sort order" option disabled
because it solves the sort order issue
at the moment it seems to be a lesser evil than seeing a folders sorted differently in tree and in navigation panel
if i understand correctly, it's not xyplorer's fault
since the problem is present even in a fresh beta-version (without any manual changes in the preferences or the ini-file)
disabling the 'use intuitive filename sorting' option in my windows2003 doesn't help
logically, it should not help but at least i tried to do something in my operating system (outside xyplorer)
because it solves the sort order issue
at the moment it seems to be a lesser evil than seeing a folders sorted differently in tree and in navigation panel
if i understand correctly, it's not xyplorer's fault
since the problem is present even in a fresh beta-version (without any manual changes in the preferences or the ini-file)
disabling the 'use intuitive filename sorting' option in my windows2003 doesn't help
logically, it should not help but at least i tried to do something in my operating system (outside xyplorer)
Re: questions about branch view
it turned out that the "Natural numeric sort order" option has to be enabled. there are important reasons for it
it also turned out that in branch view:
changing the "sort by path (ascending) #329" to the "sort by index (ascending) #319" solved the 'sort order' problem of these 5 folders:
everything looks good when the 'list' view is active
but when branch view (+ details view) is active, i never see the items sorted equally (in tree and navigation panel)
(in the 'columns #360' i always have the 'name #362' only)
example 1 (18 folders: tree, navigation panel): views > list sort by > name ascending
example 2 (the same 18 folders: navigation panel): views > details, branch view sort by > path ascending
- the folders E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type are sorted differently which is bad (but it could be more or less acceptable if they were sorted the same way in the tree too)
example 3 (the same 18 folders: navigation panel): views > details, branch view sort by > index ascending
- the folder named ''Epid is sorted wrong
- the folders E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type are again sorted differently which is bad
is there a way to always have visually equal sort order? (in tree and navigation panel)
(not only when in the list view but also when in branch+details view)
it also turned out that in branch view:
changing the "sort by path (ascending) #329" to the "sort by index (ascending) #319" solved the 'sort order' problem of these 5 folders:
but 'sort by index' is not a great choice too(Compilations)
(Splits)
0-9
A
W-Z
everything looks good when the 'list' view is active
but when branch view (+ details view) is active, i never see the items sorted equally (in tree and navigation panel)
(in the 'columns #360' i always have the 'name #362' only)
example 1 (18 folders: tree, navigation panel): views > list sort by > name ascending
this is the desired sort order (it also does not differ at all in the tree and navigation panel)(Compilations)
(Splits)
0-9
A
East-Beat
E-Base
Echo-Bass
Eclipse
E-Con
Eden
E-Go
Emotion
Epic
''Epid
Era
E-Type
Experience
W-Z
example 2 (the same 18 folders: navigation panel): views > details, branch view sort by > path ascending
- this is the unwanted sort order. the folder named 0-9 is sorted wrong which is not acceptable0-9
(Compilations)
(Splits)
A
E-Base
E-Con
E-Go
E-Type
East-Beat
Echo-Bass
Eclipse
Eden
Emotion
Epic
''Epid
Era
Experience
W-Z
- the folders E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type are sorted differently which is bad (but it could be more or less acceptable if they were sorted the same way in the tree too)
example 3 (the same 18 folders: navigation panel): views > details, branch view sort by > index ascending
- the folder named 0-9 is sorted correctly here but this sort order is not good too. because it has a huge disadvantage: it differs from the sort order in the tree (example 2 has this disadvantage too)''Epid
(Compilations)
(Splits)
0-9
A
E-Base
E-Con
E-Go
E-Type
East-Beat
Echo-Bass
Eclipse
Eden
Emotion
Epic
Era
Experience
W-Z
- the folder named ''Epid is sorted wrong
- the folders E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type are again sorted differently which is bad
is there a way to always have visually equal sort order? (in tree and navigation panel)
(not only when in the list view but also when in branch+details view)
Re: questions about branch view
despite some aspects, i'm trying to get used to the "natural numeric sort order" disabled
because at the moment it seems that this way all the 'sort order' problems are absent
there is only 1 exception: the 4 folders (E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type) are always sorted differently (in tree and navigation panel)
('sort by index' is not an option anymore)
so this is what i have now: natural numeric sort order > disabled views > details, branch view sort by > path ascending how to make these 4 folders (E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type) displayed in same order?
(in tree and navigation panel)
(in list view and branch+details view)
because at the moment it seems that this way all the 'sort order' problems are absent
there is only 1 exception: the 4 folders (E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type) are always sorted differently (in tree and navigation panel)
('sort by index' is not an option anymore)
so this is what i have now: natural numeric sort order > disabled views > details, branch view sort by > path ascending how to make these 4 folders (E-Base, E-Con, E-Go, E-Type) displayed in same order?
(in tree and navigation panel)
(in list view and branch+details view)
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Re: questions about branch view
I cannot see different orders here (with or without "natural numeric sort order"):
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Re: questions about branch view
@Don,
don't forget, he's using an ancient 2003 (Server) OS
don't forget, he's using an ancient 2003 (Server) OS
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Re: questions about branch view
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i have the same correct sort order as in your image. but this is the "name (ascending)" sort order
while i speak about the problem with the "path ascending" sort order (which i have to use when in branch+details view)
i have the same correct sort order as in your image. but this is the "name (ascending)" sort order
while i speak about the problem with the "path ascending" sort order (which i have to use when in branch+details view)
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Re: questions about branch view
Yes, "path ascending" sort order is indeed different. This is a complex matter... I'll look into it later...
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