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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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There are some network items in my tree, as well as my Kindle,
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but they were not expanded.

I was starting in my Downloads folder (on local C Drive).

My laptop is a few years old, but most things run fairly quickly most of the time. There are a few exceptions of course... Chrome and Outlook become sluggish sometimes. XY and xplorer2 both both wax and wane in terms of responsiveness.

Anyway, I'll experiment more later... Have to get some other stuff done right now :)
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Since I started this thread... I also find the opening after an (beta) update to be slow. I'll have to run the log, but my sense this morning was more in the 5-10 second range. While updates in the morning are common, I think it's generally the case with my first opening of the session. Btw, I don't normally open the program with the install but sometime later.

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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Start from desktop icon about seven minutes after a cold boot completed took about 16 seconds by watch. I went looking for a log that would show what others have been posting, but couldn't find it. And Various Information doesn't show anything of use except how long after boot I started the program. Where should I be looking (or do)?

Update: I missed the "loaded in" time in Various Information. After closing, updating with the latest beta, and starting from the desktop icon again, loaded in shows 1336 ms.

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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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since v15.00.0201
admin wrote:

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v15.00.0201 - 2015-03-24 16:31
    + Help | Various Information: Hold CTRL+SHIFT when clicking the menu item 
      and you get detailed information about the application load times.
Then just copy-paste the info here.
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Pressing Ctrl-Shift the first time didn't show anything different. Subsequent times it closes the drop down.

After a warm reboot, a start several minutes later shows the following:

XYplorer: 15.00.0205 (Home Edition - Lifetime License Home)
Loaded in: 13,559 ms at 3/25/2015 1:41:15 PM
Uptime: 2 mins, 2 secs
Memory Usage: 33,632 KB, Virtual Memory Size: 18,248 KB

OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit (6.3)
OS Uptime: 11 mins, 37 secs
UTC Offset: --06:00
User Role: Admin
Themes: Yes (Aero) RealSystem32: Yes

System Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Thread Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Default ANSI Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
Active Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
DBCS Code Page: No

DblClick Time: 620 ms
Screen: 1920x1200, 1, Virtual: (0, 0) - (1920, 1200), Work: (0, 0) - (1920, 1168)
Screen DPI: 110.7692 (115.3846%)
Screen Color Depth: 32
UseDPIAwareIconSizes: Yes, Yes
Icon Size: small=16, large=32
Icon Size Recommended: small=18, large=37

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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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No, that's not it.

Ctrl+Shift+Click on Help | Various Information
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Start two minutes after warm reboot.

XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-25 14:44:33

0 ms: 74 ms - Load Window
74 ms: 20 ms - Init Language
94 ms: 19 ms - Load Language
113 ms: 8 ms - Load Settings
121 ms: 2 ms - Init Custom File Icons
123 ms: 87 ms - Init Controls
210 ms: 16 ms - Init Tree
226 ms: 1 ms - Tab Icons
227 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
228 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
228 ms: 13,071 ms - Load Tree
13,299 ms: 4 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
13,303 ms: 17 ms - Layout Window
13,320 ms: 34 ms - Show Window
13,354 ms: 40 ms - Load This Pane
13,394 ms: 71 ms - Load Other Pane
13,465 ms: 1 ms - Init Menus
13,466 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows: 1776, Nodes: 1776, Expanded: 28
Remember Tree State: Yes
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes

Get Folder Sizes: Yes

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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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1776 nodes in the tree, that might explain at least some of the milliseconds... ever thought about using MiniTree?
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Yeah, and the next thought was if I had to do that I'd be finding another file manger.

The fact is the slowness opening here was introduced sometime late in 14 or early 15. While I'd had the close with the X problem for some time, I'd never had any problem opening it. That must be at least three or four years now. And since a Win 8.1 clean reinstall in December, I have a lot less in that tree than before. So, change here, the program or something in a recent Windows update?

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Maybe you inadvertedly checked "Remember Tree State" recently?
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Next version will be faster. Much faster. :biggrin:
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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I think this is the first time ever that I started my normal configuration at < 300 ms. :tup:

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS:     	Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit
Loaded: 	2015-03-26 11:31:25

     0 ms:      52 ms - Load Window
    52 ms:       9 ms - Init Language
    61 ms:      11 ms - Load Language
    72 ms:       4 ms - Load Settings
    76 ms:      20 ms - Init Custom File Icons
    96 ms:      65 ms - Init Controls
   161 ms:      25 ms - Init Tree
   186 ms:       4 ms - Tab Icons
   190 ms:       4 ms - Load Catalog
   194 ms:       1 ms - Load Tags
   195 ms:       1 ms - Load Custom Columns
   196 ms:      22 ms - Load Tree
   218 ms:       9 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
   227 ms:       4 ms - Init UDC and KS
   231 ms:       8 ms - Load This Pane
   239 ms:       1 ms - Load Other Pane
   240 ms:      28 ms - Layout Window
   268 ms:      24 ms - Show Window
   292 ms:       3 ms - Init Menus
   295 ms:            - Load Done

MiniTree: Rows=53, Nodes=54, Expanded=19, Mapped Drives=1
Remember Tree State: Yes (35 stored paths)
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=310
Pane 2: Items=0
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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:appl: :appl: :appl: Great job Don! I can't wait to see something similar on my computer too!
Speaking of which, I did a comparison between a fresh and my regular configuration.
Fresh:

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS:     	Windows 8.1 Enterprise, 64-bit
Loaded: 	2015-03-26 11:36:28

     0 ms:     161 ms - Load Window
   161 ms:      48 ms - Init Language
   209 ms:       4 ms - Load Settings
   213 ms:       2 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   215 ms:     158 ms - Init Controls
   373 ms:       8 ms - Init Tree
   381 ms:       2 ms - Tab Icons
   383 ms:       0 ms - Load Catalog
   383 ms:       0 ms - Load Tags
   383 ms:       1 ms - Load Custom Columns
   384 ms:       9 ms - Load Tree
   393 ms:       5 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
   398 ms:      13 ms - Load This Pane
   411 ms:       5 ms - Load Other Pane
   416 ms:      24 ms - Layout Window
   440 ms:      23 ms - Show Window
   463 ms:       1 ms - Init Menus
   464 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows: 10, Nodes: 10, Expanded: 1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Regular

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS:     	Windows 8.1 Enterprise, 64-bit
Loaded: 	2015-03-26 11:37:18

     0 ms:     142 ms - Load Window
   142 ms:      18 ms - Init Language
   160 ms:      71 ms - Load Language
   231 ms:      11 ms - Load Settings
   242 ms:      98 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   340 ms:     159 ms - Init Controls
   499 ms:      70 ms - Init Tree
   569 ms:      43 ms - Tab Icons
   612 ms:       9 ms - Load Catalog
   621 ms:     108 ms - Load Tags
   729 ms:       0 ms - Load Custom Columns
   729 ms:      17 ms - Load Tree
   746 ms:       6 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
   752 ms:      12 ms - Load This Pane
   764 ms:       3 ms - Load Other Pane
   767 ms:      57 ms - Layout Window
   824 ms:      80 ms - Show Window
   904 ms:       2 ms - Init Menus
   906 ms:            - Load Done

MiniTree: Rows: 6, Nodes: 13, Expanded: 4
Remember Tree State: Yes
Icon Overlays: Yes
I notice that Init Controls always takes a good percentage of the loading time.
Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Marco wrote:Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
Indeed Marco seems to be correct here...
I had assumed that custom icons would be a non issue, if they are turned off. It appears that turning them on/off as I was doing with my "skinny" and "regular" setup yesterday didn't make a huge difference. Today I actually removed the icons and icon rules, and it did make a difference of a couple seconds. I had a lot... 216 icons in <xyicons> and 181 different rules.

I installed the latest xy, V15.00.0206. This alone seems to have allowed a big increase in speed. I removed/readded the icons/rule a couple times and that make even more difference.... See pasted below.
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With rules and icons
------------------------------

XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206 - upgraded from v15.00.0203
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:07:21

0 ms: 277 ms - Load Window
277 ms: 31 ms - Init Language
308 ms: 37 ms - Load Language
345 ms: 14 ms - Load Settings
359 ms: 985 ms - Init Custom File Icons
1,344 ms: 323 ms - Init Controls
1,667 ms: 40 ms - Init Tree
1,707 ms: 2 ms - Tab Icons
1,709 ms: 4 ms - Load Catalog
1,713 ms: 0 ms - Load Tags
1,713 ms: 1 ms - Load Custom Columns
1,714 ms: 13 ms - Load Tree
1,727 ms: 18 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
1,745 ms: 11 ms - Init UDC and KS
1,756 ms: 8 ms - Load This Pane
1,764 ms: 9 ms - Load Other Pane
1,773 ms: 41 ms - Layout Window
1,814 ms: 238 ms - Show Window
2,052 ms: 2 ms - Init Menus
2,054 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=14, Nodes=14, Expanded=1, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=0, Network
Pane 2: Items=2

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Then remove icons (216) /rules (181)
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:09:57

0 ms: 288 ms - Load Window
288 ms: 33 ms - Init Language
321 ms: 36 ms - Load Language
357 ms: 13 ms - Load Settings
370 ms: 5 ms - Init Custom File Icons
375 ms: 312 ms - Init Controls
687 ms: 31 ms - Init Tree
718 ms: 3 ms - Tab Icons
721 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
724 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
725 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
725 ms: 107 ms - Load Tree
832 ms: 17 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
849 ms: 13 ms - Init UDC and KS
862 ms: 41 ms - Load This Pane
903 ms: 237 ms - Load Other Pane
1,140 ms: 134 ms - Layout Window
1,274 ms: 293 ms - Show Window
1,567 ms: 3 ms - Init Menus
1,570 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25
Pane 2: Items=15

--------------------------------
Put icons and rules back...
---------------------------------

XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:13:09

1 ms: 323 ms - Load Window
324 ms: 34 ms - Init Language
358 ms: 55 ms - Load Language
413 ms: 17 ms - Load Settings
430 ms: 1,225 ms - Init Custom File Icons
1,655 ms: 328 ms - Init Controls
1,983 ms: 38 ms - Init Tree
2,021 ms: 11 ms - Tab Icons
2,032 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
2,035 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
2,036 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
2,036 ms: 88 ms - Load Tree
2,124 ms: 17 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
2,141 ms: 10 ms - Init UDC and KS
2,151 ms: 766 ms - Load This Pane
2,917 ms: 168 ms - Load Other Pane
3,085 ms: 90 ms - Layout Window
3,175 ms: 401 ms - Show Window
3,576 ms: 3 ms - Init Menus
3,579 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=53
Pane 2: Items=136

-------------------------------------
Remove icons and rules again
-------------------------------------

XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:14:55

0 ms: 275 ms - Load Window
275 ms: 35 ms - Init Language
310 ms: 38 ms - Load Language
348 ms: 18 ms - Load Settings
366 ms: 6 ms - Init Custom File Icons
372 ms: 498 ms - Init Controls
870 ms: 33 ms - Init Tree
903 ms: 3 ms - Tab Icons
906 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
909 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
910 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
910 ms: 102 ms - Load Tree
1,012 ms: 16 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
1,028 ms: 12 ms - Init UDC and KS
1,040 ms: 41 ms - Load This Pane
1,081 ms: 240 ms - Load Other Pane
1,321 ms: 140 ms - Layout Window
1,461 ms: 324 ms - Show Window
1,785 ms: 2 ms - Init Menus
1,787 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=53
Pane 2: Items=16
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Re: XYplorer slow to open

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Marco wrote:Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
Ah, damn, I forgot to look after that. Next beta...
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