XYplorer slow to open
Re: XYplorer slow to open
There are some network items in my tree, as well as my Kindle,
but they were not expanded.
I was starting in my Downloads folder (on local C Drive).
My laptop is a few years old, but most things run fairly quickly most of the time. There are a few exceptions of course... Chrome and Outlook become sluggish sometimes. XY and xplorer2 both both wax and wane in terms of responsiveness.
Anyway, I'll experiment more later... Have to get some other stuff done right now
but they were not expanded.
I was starting in my Downloads folder (on local C Drive).
My laptop is a few years old, but most things run fairly quickly most of the time. There are a few exceptions of course... Chrome and Outlook become sluggish sometimes. XY and xplorer2 both both wax and wane in terms of responsiveness.
Anyway, I'll experiment more later... Have to get some other stuff done right now
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Since I started this thread... I also find the opening after an (beta) update to be slow. I'll have to run the log, but my sense this morning was more in the 5-10 second range. While updates in the morning are common, I think it's generally the case with my first opening of the session. Btw, I don't normally open the program with the install but sometime later.
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Start from desktop icon about seven minutes after a cold boot completed took about 16 seconds by watch. I went looking for a log that would show what others have been posting, but couldn't find it. And Various Information doesn't show anything of use except how long after boot I started the program. Where should I be looking (or do)?
Update: I missed the "loaded in" time in Various Information. After closing, updating with the latest beta, and starting from the desktop icon again, loaded in shows 1336 ms.
Update: I missed the "loaded in" time in Various Information. After closing, updating with the latest beta, and starting from the desktop icon again, loaded in shows 1336 ms.
Re: XYplorer slow to open
since v15.00.0201
Then just copy-paste the info here.admin wrote:Code: Select all
v15.00.0201 - 2015-03-24 16:31 + Help | Various Information: Hold CTRL+SHIFT when clicking the menu item and you get detailed information about the application load times.
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Pressing Ctrl-Shift the first time didn't show anything different. Subsequent times it closes the drop down.
After a warm reboot, a start several minutes later shows the following:
XYplorer: 15.00.0205 (Home Edition - Lifetime License Home)
Loaded in: 13,559 ms at 3/25/2015 1:41:15 PM
Uptime: 2 mins, 2 secs
Memory Usage: 33,632 KB, Virtual Memory Size: 18,248 KB
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit (6.3)
OS Uptime: 11 mins, 37 secs
UTC Offset: --06:00
User Role: Admin
Themes: Yes (Aero) RealSystem32: Yes
System Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Thread Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Default ANSI Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
Active Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
DBCS Code Page: No
DblClick Time: 620 ms
Screen: 1920x1200, 1, Virtual: (0, 0) - (1920, 1200), Work: (0, 0) - (1920, 1168)
Screen DPI: 110.7692 (115.3846%)
Screen Color Depth: 32
UseDPIAwareIconSizes: Yes, Yes
Icon Size: small=16, large=32
Icon Size Recommended: small=18, large=37
After a warm reboot, a start several minutes later shows the following:
XYplorer: 15.00.0205 (Home Edition - Lifetime License Home)
Loaded in: 13,559 ms at 3/25/2015 1:41:15 PM
Uptime: 2 mins, 2 secs
Memory Usage: 33,632 KB, Virtual Memory Size: 18,248 KB
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit (6.3)
OS Uptime: 11 mins, 37 secs
UTC Offset: --06:00
User Role: Admin
Themes: Yes (Aero) RealSystem32: Yes
System Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Thread Locale ID: 1033 (en-US)
Default ANSI Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
Active Code Page: 1252 (ANSI - Latin I)
DBCS Code Page: No
DblClick Time: 620 ms
Screen: 1920x1200, 1, Virtual: (0, 0) - (1920, 1200), Work: (0, 0) - (1920, 1168)
Screen DPI: 110.7692 (115.3846%)
Screen Color Depth: 32
UseDPIAwareIconSizes: Yes, Yes
Icon Size: small=16, large=32
Icon Size Recommended: small=18, large=37
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
No, that's not it.
Ctrl+Shift+Click on Help | Various Information
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Start two minutes after warm reboot.
XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-25 14:44:33
0 ms: 74 ms - Load Window
74 ms: 20 ms - Init Language
94 ms: 19 ms - Load Language
113 ms: 8 ms - Load Settings
121 ms: 2 ms - Init Custom File Icons
123 ms: 87 ms - Init Controls
210 ms: 16 ms - Init Tree
226 ms: 1 ms - Tab Icons
227 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
228 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
228 ms: 13,071 ms - Load Tree
13,299 ms: 4 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
13,303 ms: 17 ms - Layout Window
13,320 ms: 34 ms - Show Window
13,354 ms: 40 ms - Load This Pane
13,394 ms: 71 ms - Load Other Pane
13,465 ms: 1 ms - Init Menus
13,466 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows: 1776, Nodes: 1776, Expanded: 28
Remember Tree State: Yes
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Get Folder Sizes: Yes
XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-25 14:44:33
0 ms: 74 ms - Load Window
74 ms: 20 ms - Init Language
94 ms: 19 ms - Load Language
113 ms: 8 ms - Load Settings
121 ms: 2 ms - Init Custom File Icons
123 ms: 87 ms - Init Controls
210 ms: 16 ms - Init Tree
226 ms: 1 ms - Tab Icons
227 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
228 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
228 ms: 13,071 ms - Load Tree
13,299 ms: 4 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
13,303 ms: 17 ms - Layout Window
13,320 ms: 34 ms - Show Window
13,354 ms: 40 ms - Load This Pane
13,394 ms: 71 ms - Load Other Pane
13,465 ms: 1 ms - Init Menus
13,466 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows: 1776, Nodes: 1776, Expanded: 28
Remember Tree State: Yes
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Get Folder Sizes: Yes
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
1776 nodes in the tree, that might explain at least some of the milliseconds... ever thought about using MiniTree?
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Yeah, and the next thought was if I had to do that I'd be finding another file manger.
The fact is the slowness opening here was introduced sometime late in 14 or early 15. While I'd had the close with the X problem for some time, I'd never had any problem opening it. That must be at least three or four years now. And since a Win 8.1 clean reinstall in December, I have a lot less in that tree than before. So, change here, the program or something in a recent Windows update?
The fact is the slowness opening here was introduced sometime late in 14 or early 15. While I'd had the close with the X problem for some time, I'd never had any problem opening it. That must be at least three or four years now. And since a Win 8.1 clean reinstall in December, I have a lot less in that tree than before. So, change here, the program or something in a recent Windows update?
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Maybe you inadvertedly checked "Remember Tree State" recently?
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
I think this is the first time ever that I started my normal configuration at < 300 ms.
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 8.1 Professional, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 11:31:25
0 ms: 52 ms - Load Window
52 ms: 9 ms - Init Language
61 ms: 11 ms - Load Language
72 ms: 4 ms - Load Settings
76 ms: 20 ms - Init Custom File Icons
96 ms: 65 ms - Init Controls
161 ms: 25 ms - Init Tree
186 ms: 4 ms - Tab Icons
190 ms: 4 ms - Load Catalog
194 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
195 ms: 1 ms - Load Custom Columns
196 ms: 22 ms - Load Tree
218 ms: 9 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
227 ms: 4 ms - Init UDC and KS
231 ms: 8 ms - Load This Pane
239 ms: 1 ms - Load Other Pane
240 ms: 28 ms - Layout Window
268 ms: 24 ms - Show Window
292 ms: 3 ms - Init Menus
295 ms: - Load Done
MiniTree: Rows=53, Nodes=54, Expanded=19, Mapped Drives=1
Remember Tree State: Yes (35 stored paths)
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=310
Pane 2: Items=0
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Great job Don! I can't wait to see something similar on my computer too!
Speaking of which, I did a comparison between a fresh and my regular configuration.
Fresh:
Regular
I notice that Init Controls always takes a good percentage of the loading time.
Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
Speaking of which, I did a comparison between a fresh and my regular configuration.
Fresh:
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 11:36:28
0 ms: 161 ms - Load Window
161 ms: 48 ms - Init Language
209 ms: 4 ms - Load Settings
213 ms: 2 ms - Init Custom File Icons
215 ms: 158 ms - Init Controls
373 ms: 8 ms - Init Tree
381 ms: 2 ms - Tab Icons
383 ms: 0 ms - Load Catalog
383 ms: 0 ms - Load Tags
383 ms: 1 ms - Load Custom Columns
384 ms: 9 ms - Load Tree
393 ms: 5 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
398 ms: 13 ms - Load This Pane
411 ms: 5 ms - Load Other Pane
416 ms: 24 ms - Layout Window
440 ms: 23 ms - Show Window
463 ms: 1 ms - Init Menus
464 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows: 10, Nodes: 10, Expanded: 1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0205
OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise, 64-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 11:37:18
0 ms: 142 ms - Load Window
142 ms: 18 ms - Init Language
160 ms: 71 ms - Load Language
231 ms: 11 ms - Load Settings
242 ms: 98 ms - Init Custom File Icons
340 ms: 159 ms - Init Controls
499 ms: 70 ms - Init Tree
569 ms: 43 ms - Tab Icons
612 ms: 9 ms - Load Catalog
621 ms: 108 ms - Load Tags
729 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
729 ms: 17 ms - Load Tree
746 ms: 6 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
752 ms: 12 ms - Load This Pane
764 ms: 3 ms - Load Other Pane
767 ms: 57 ms - Layout Window
824 ms: 80 ms - Show Window
904 ms: 2 ms - Init Menus
906 ms: - Load Done
MiniTree: Rows: 6, Nodes: 13, Expanded: 4
Remember Tree State: Yes
Icon Overlays: Yes
Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Indeed Marco seems to be correct here...Marco wrote:Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
I had assumed that custom icons would be a non issue, if they are turned off. It appears that turning them on/off as I was doing with my "skinny" and "regular" setup yesterday didn't make a huge difference. Today I actually removed the icons and icon rules, and it did make a difference of a couple seconds. I had a lot... 216 icons in <xyicons> and 181 different rules.
I installed the latest xy, V15.00.0206. This alone seems to have allowed a big increase in speed. I removed/readded the icons/rule a couple times and that make even more difference.... See pasted below.
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With rules and icons
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206 - upgraded from v15.00.0203
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:07:21
0 ms: 277 ms - Load Window
277 ms: 31 ms - Init Language
308 ms: 37 ms - Load Language
345 ms: 14 ms - Load Settings
359 ms: 985 ms - Init Custom File Icons
1,344 ms: 323 ms - Init Controls
1,667 ms: 40 ms - Init Tree
1,707 ms: 2 ms - Tab Icons
1,709 ms: 4 ms - Load Catalog
1,713 ms: 0 ms - Load Tags
1,713 ms: 1 ms - Load Custom Columns
1,714 ms: 13 ms - Load Tree
1,727 ms: 18 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
1,745 ms: 11 ms - Init UDC and KS
1,756 ms: 8 ms - Load This Pane
1,764 ms: 9 ms - Load Other Pane
1,773 ms: 41 ms - Layout Window
1,814 ms: 238 ms - Show Window
2,052 ms: 2 ms - Init Menus
2,054 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows=14, Nodes=14, Expanded=1, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=0, Network
Pane 2: Items=2
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Then remove icons (216) /rules (181)
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:09:57
0 ms: 288 ms - Load Window
288 ms: 33 ms - Init Language
321 ms: 36 ms - Load Language
357 ms: 13 ms - Load Settings
370 ms: 5 ms - Init Custom File Icons
375 ms: 312 ms - Init Controls
687 ms: 31 ms - Init Tree
718 ms: 3 ms - Tab Icons
721 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
724 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
725 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
725 ms: 107 ms - Load Tree
832 ms: 17 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
849 ms: 13 ms - Init UDC and KS
862 ms: 41 ms - Load This Pane
903 ms: 237 ms - Load Other Pane
1,140 ms: 134 ms - Layout Window
1,274 ms: 293 ms - Show Window
1,567 ms: 3 ms - Init Menus
1,570 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25
Pane 2: Items=15
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Put icons and rules back...
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:13:09
1 ms: 323 ms - Load Window
324 ms: 34 ms - Init Language
358 ms: 55 ms - Load Language
413 ms: 17 ms - Load Settings
430 ms: 1,225 ms - Init Custom File Icons
1,655 ms: 328 ms - Init Controls
1,983 ms: 38 ms - Init Tree
2,021 ms: 11 ms - Tab Icons
2,032 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
2,035 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
2,036 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
2,036 ms: 88 ms - Load Tree
2,124 ms: 17 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
2,141 ms: 10 ms - Init UDC and KS
2,151 ms: 766 ms - Load This Pane
2,917 ms: 168 ms - Load Other Pane
3,085 ms: 90 ms - Layout Window
3,175 ms: 401 ms - Show Window
3,576 ms: 3 ms - Init Menus
3,579 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=53
Pane 2: Items=136
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Remove icons and rules again
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XY ver: XYplorer 15.00.0206
OS: Windows 7 Enterprise (Service Pack 1), 32-bit
Loaded: 2015-03-26 08:14:55
0 ms: 275 ms - Load Window
275 ms: 35 ms - Init Language
310 ms: 38 ms - Load Language
348 ms: 18 ms - Load Settings
366 ms: 6 ms - Init Custom File Icons
372 ms: 498 ms - Init Controls
870 ms: 33 ms - Init Tree
903 ms: 3 ms - Tab Icons
906 ms: 3 ms - Load Catalog
909 ms: 1 ms - Load Tags
910 ms: 0 ms - Load Custom Columns
910 ms: 102 ms - Load Tree
1,012 ms: 16 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
1,028 ms: 12 ms - Init UDC and KS
1,040 ms: 41 ms - Load This Pane
1,081 ms: 240 ms - Load Other Pane
1,321 ms: 140 ms - Layout Window
1,461 ms: 324 ms - Show Window
1,785 ms: 2 ms - Init Menus
1,787 ms: - Load Done
MaxiTree: Rows=175, Nodes=175, Expanded=3, Mapped Drives=5, Portable Devices=1
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=53
Pane 2: Items=16
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Re: XYplorer slow to open
Ah, damn, I forgot to look after that. Next beta...Marco wrote:Also, I notice that Init Custom File Icons depends on the number of icons in <xyicons> and not on the fact that Configuration > Refresh, Icons, History > Icons > Enable custom file icons is enabled/disabled. Am I right? I mean, on my regular configuration, enabling/disabling the option doesn't lead to different timings for that routine.
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