Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

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Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by SkyFrontier » 01 Jun 2014 10:49

Recently we're getting more and more undocumented stuff and this is something some may or may not understand.

A trick like ctrl+shift+enter for skipping POM and launching a file with its system-wide association is not mentioned on both help and tool tips (list management), for instance.

Over the years I've beeing collecting notes on this and at least in a screenshot I saw another user registering them too.
With time I may find some of those notes (have to resource to a non-available backup, as of now) and make them available here.
I was waiting for the time I'd find my notes but reality bites hard, so why not kick start it right away?

I invite other users to please do the same on this very thread.

If possible, please post the original link an undocumented feature is mentioned. Next week I may update this post with several stuff I may have at hand.
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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by Stef123 » 01 Jun 2014 11:49

SkyFrontier wrote:A trick like ctrl+shift+enter for skipping POM and launching a file with its system-wide association is not mentioned

I am a fairly new user and since I know this shortcut, I must have read about it .... hold on .... here:
help topic Portable File Associations wrote: You still have direct access to the registry-based file associations via
...
(c) CKS | Miscellaneous | File Operations: Added "Open Selected Item(s) with OS Default" [Ctrl+Shift+Enter].

Not meaning to be a smart ass :whistle:
That doesn't squash your other points, of course, which I find somewhat related to this:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11824

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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by binocular222 » 02 Jun 2014 05:07

I'm a casual coder using AHK language. All of my xys scripts:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 243#p82488

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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by SkyFrontier » 02 Jun 2014 06:16

@Stef123
Thanks for the heads up. I totally forgot the key combo, looked on CKS, that very page and mentioned tool tip plus exhaustive forum search (I recall seeing a reference here somewhere!) but got nothing. Found it by cautious try-and-error mixes of "enter".

@binocular222
Thanks much for the cooperation! Nice page that of yours! Will explorer it more, anytime soon.

For reference, there you'll (users) will find notes on the following commands/features:

Msecs
Edittags
Exist
Snippet
Sendkeys
Wait
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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by binocular222 » 02 Jun 2014 06:53

Serendipity made that website, not mine.
I have my own tips and tricks (in a .txt file) but not actually undocumented things. IMO, undocumented features are for super geeks, who digested all the help file (and crafting all the creative usage from those myriad of options) and still wants more. Definitely not a newbie area and I haven't reached that "super geek" level too
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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by SammaySarkar » 02 Jun 2014 07:41

just a few that comes to mind:
base64encode() , base64decode() http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11016
row() , cell() http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 30#p102919

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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by PeterH » 02 Jun 2014 11:11

binocular222 wrote:... IMO, undocumented features are for super geeks, who digested all the help file (and crafting all the creative usage from those myriad of options) and still wants more. Definitely not a newbie area and I haven't reached that "super geek" level too
I don't think it's so. (At least for some of these features.)

For example wait(): it's for those who were reading the forum at the time it was invented, or when somebody asked for it, or for those daring to ask the forum themselves. (*If* they need such and function *and* think that it could exist undocumented :shock: ) :?

So I think having undocumented functions often is just waisted time for the users to have problems with these, again and again :cry:
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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by Stef123 » 02 Jun 2014 11:28

PeterH wrote:
binocular222 wrote:... IMO, undocumented features are for super geeks, who digested all the help file (and crafting all the creative usage from those myriad of options) and still wants more. Definitely not a newbie area and I haven't reached that "super geek" level too
I don't think it's so. (At least for some of these features.)
I don't think so, either. I don't consider myself a super-geek, tons of stuff I never touched in the help file, no intention to know every detail - only those things that are relevant to the look and behavior I have in mind. Undocumented features were a great help in that respect, especially for a newbie like me who doesn't know scripting.

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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by binocular222 » 04 Jun 2014 06:11

Get on-screen-postion of current selected item: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 19#p102919
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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by SammaySarkar » 13 Jun 2014 12:39

Couple more: freshhere, screen

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Re: Documenting Undocumented (sort of)

Post by SkyFrontier » 05 Jul 2014 17:19

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