File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Things you’d like to miss in the future...
bugger
Posts: 47
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 19:03

File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by bugger »

Hello, thanks for keeping XYPlorer going strong really digging the new features. This is a problem that has plagued me for a couple of years since I first purchased my lifetime license. I decided to deal with it but it bothers me enough where I wanted to check in if you've tested either of these scenarios.

My Config:
Windows 7 x64
XYPlorer 9.10

I remember this happening to me under Vista as well. In short, I use a lot of VMWare guest OS's, and I also use Remote Desktop Connection (builtin Windows client) to remotely access my computers. The behavior is the same in both cases:

1. I can copy from XY to either RD or VMWare (that's good)
2. I cannot copy from either RD or VMWare back to XY (that's bad)

I have to open Windows Explorer everytime I want to copy files from a RD or VMWare, which of course ruins the idea of trying to stay inside of XY. Do you know how the underlying file copy operations are handled in those types of applications that would cause XY to behave like this?

BTW, the latest version of XY's "Background Bar" has given a little more insight into this. When you copy from a VM/RD and then paste into XY, the XY screen flickrs, and the status shows an error:

Completed 6:03 mins ago after less than 1 sec (Cancelled or Failed) Copy "C:\Users\chris\AppData\Lo...\StreamWriter-DoS.aspx" to C:\tmp Queued. Initiated: 5/6/2010 2:36:19 PM Started: 5/6/2010 2:36:21 PM Completed: 5/6/2010 2:36:21 PM

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 50943
Joined: 22 May 2004 16:48
Location: Cologne, Win 8.1, Win 10
Contact:

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by admin »

How exactly do you (attempt to) copy the files? And what happens then, any error message (apart from that background bar item)?
FAQ | XY News RSS | XY Twitter | Stay home! 🎸 Or wear a mask! 😷

bugger
Posts: 47
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 19:03

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by bugger »

Inside the VM or Remote Desktop, I simply right click and Copy, or ctrl+c. Then switch over to XY and right-click paste, or ctrl+v. I'll call my primary computer the 'host' and any VM session or Remote Desktop session the 'guest' since i'm talking about copying files from a guest to the host.

I don't normally get error messages,but this morning, probably since you asked and XY listened, I'm getting some different behavior and errors. This morning I started up a Remote Desktop session, inside the RD, I copied a single HTML file from the guest. It actually copied over to my host XY when I pasted it. After that, I tried copying another file, a ZIP, an EXE, and a text file. None of them would copy to my host XY. They do copy fine to my host's Windows Explorer.

After some tries, I managed to get a couple error messages out of XY:

Error 9 (00000009)
Desc Subscript out of range
Dll 0
Proc SaveAttachment

Source XYplorer
XY ver 9.10.0000
OS Windows 7
Date 5/7/2010 9:53:51 AM



Error 445 (000001BD)
Desc Object doesn't support this action
Dll 0
Proc SaveAttachment

Source XYplorer
XY ver 9.10.0000
OS Windows 7
Date 5/7/2010 9:56:52 AM


Is that helpful? Can anyone reproduce this? I've had this issue for two years, across a few OS re-installs (I refresh my host OS regularly).

lukescammell
Posts: 744
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 13:15
Location: Kent, UK
Contact:

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by lukescammell »

I wonder if this is related... Trying to drag and drop a file from the desktop of an XP SP3 VM in MS VPC to the list view, results in a hidden folder being created named "DragonDropProcessFolder". The actual file is not copied.

XY doesn't throw an errr, but VPC does:

Code: Select all

Virtual PC has encountered an error on the host while copying files.

An error in Virtual PC has occurred (d3).
Used to update to the latest beta every day. Now I have children instead…
Windows 10 Pro x64 (everywhere except phone…)

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 50943
Joined: 22 May 2004 16:48
Location: Cologne, Win 8.1, Win 10
Contact:

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by admin »

lukescammell wrote:I wonder if this is related... Trying to drag and drop a file from the desktop of an XP SP3 VM in MS VPC to the list view, results in a hidden folder being created named "DragonDropProcessFolder". The actual file is not copied.

XY doesn't throw an errr, but VPC does:

Code: Select all

Virtual PC has encountered an error on the host while copying files.

An error in Virtual PC has occurred (d3).
Just to make sure: DragonDropProcessFolder is not created by XY.
FAQ | XY News RSS | XY Twitter | Stay home! 🎸 Or wear a mask! 😷

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 50943
Joined: 22 May 2004 16:48
Location: Cologne, Win 8.1, Win 10
Contact:

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by admin »

bugger wrote:Inside the VM or Remote Desktop, I simply right click and Copy, or ctrl+c. Then switch over to XY and right-click paste, or ctrl+v. I'll call my primary computer the 'host' and any VM session or Remote Desktop session the 'guest' since i'm talking about copying files from a guest to the host.

I don't normally get error messages,but this morning, probably since you asked and XY listened, I'm getting some different behavior and errors. This morning I started up a Remote Desktop session, inside the RD, I copied a single HTML file from the guest. It actually copied over to my host XY when I pasted it. After that, I tried copying another file, a ZIP, an EXE, and a text file. None of them would copy to my host XY. They do copy fine to my host's Windows Explorer.

After some tries, I managed to get a couple error messages out of XY:

Error 9 (00000009)
Desc Subscript out of range
Dll 0
Proc SaveAttachment

Source XYplorer
XY ver 9.10.0000
OS Windows 7
Date 5/7/2010 9:53:51 AM



Error 445 (000001BD)
Desc Object doesn't support this action
Dll 0
Proc SaveAttachment

Source XYplorer
XY ver 9.10.0000
OS Windows 7
Date 5/7/2010 9:56:52 AM


Is that helpful? Can anyone reproduce this? I've had this issue for two years, across a few OS re-installs (I refresh my host OS regularly).
Are you saying this is a new error this morning, or that you are getting this for two years?
FAQ | XY News RSS | XY Twitter | Stay home! 🎸 Or wear a mask! 😷

bugger
Posts: 47
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 19:03

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWare

Post by bugger »

Oh I was saying the error message was new to me, I hadn't every seen XY pop up that error before. The general problem of copying/pasting between VMWare and Remote Desktop has persisted for two years.

highend
Posts: 10157
Joined: 06 Feb 2011 00:33

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by highend »

Any news on this issue?

Copying files from a vmware guest (tried xp, vista and 7) into xyplorer (latest beta on a real machine) isn't working. No error messages at all.
One of my scripts helped you out? Please donate via Paypal or paypal_donate (at) stdmail (dot) de

nas8e9
Posts: 2192
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 14:50

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by nas8e9 »

The problem seems to be background processing: when it's disabled, it works. Custom Copy doesn't give an error message in the Jobs window, while the Windows Shell file functions backgrounded, do.

FWIW, Directory Opus 10.0 fails at this too with its own file functions.

VMware Workstation 7.1.4 / XYplorer 10.10.0107 / Windows 7 x64 SP1.

highend
Posts: 10157
Joined: 06 Feb 2011 00:33

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by highend »

Thanks nas8e9,

I'll put a button on the toolbar that disables background processing as a temporary workaround :)
One of my scripts helped you out? Please donate via Paypal or paypal_donate (at) stdmail (dot) de

highend
Posts: 10157
Joined: 06 Feb 2011 00:33

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by highend »

I just tried it again...

VMware 8.0.0 471780, XYplorer v10.20.0011, Win 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Direction: From guest (VM machine with windows explorer) to host (physical os with XYplorer)

Disabled background processing (through the new icon for the toolbar): doesn't work
Additionally disabled custom copy: doesn't work.
One of my scripts helped you out? Please donate via Paypal or paypal_donate (at) stdmail (dot) de

Kob
Posts: 18
Joined: 20 Apr 2011 13:27

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by Kob »

I wonder if this issue has anything to do with the issue I described in
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6382

grindax

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by grindax »

.
Last edited by grindax on 23 Jan 2016 20:14, edited 1 time in total.

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 50943
Joined: 22 May 2004 16:48
Location: Cologne, Win 8.1, Win 10
Contact:

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by admin »

No error message?
FAQ | XY News RSS | XY Twitter | Stay home! 🎸 Or wear a mask! 😷

highend
Posts: 10157
Joined: 06 Feb 2011 00:33

Re: File copy to/from Remote Desktop Connection and/or VMWar

Post by highend »

Environment:

VMware Workstation: v8.0.1build-528992

Physical: Windows 7, Ultimate, x64 SP1, German
Virtual: Windows XP Pro, x86 SP3, German

XYplorer: v10.80.0301 portable on both sides

Background processing and use custom copy are off (on both sides).

Copying is always invoked via Ctrl + c / Ctrl + v

---------------------------------------

- Copy from PHYSICAL to VIRTUAL, from XYplorer to XYplorer:
Any file copy operation leads to this error message on the VIRTUAL machine:
Datei kann nicht kopiert werden: Die Quelldatei oder vom Quelldatenträger
kann nicht gelesen werden.

- Copy from PHYSICAL to VIRTUAL, from XYplorer to Windows Explorer:
Works flawlessly with any file.

- Copy from PHYSICAL to VIRTUAL, from Windows Explorer to XYplorer:
Any file copy operation leads to this error message on the VIRTUAL machine:
Datei kann nicht kopiert werden: Die Quelldatei oder vom Quelldatenträger
kann nicht gelesen werden.

- Copy from PHYSICAL to VIRTUAL, from Windows Explorer to Windows Explorer:
Ofc no problems.

---------------------------------------

- Copy from VIRTUAL to PHYSICAL , from XYplorer to XYplorer:
No files at all are getting copied.
No error message on either side!

- Copy from VIRTUAL to PHYSICAL , from XYplorer to Windows Explorer:
Works flawlessly with any file.

- Copy from VIRTUAL to PHYSICAL, from Windows Explorer to XYplorer:
No files at all are getting copied.
No error message on either side!

- Copy from VIRTUAL to PHYSICAL , from Windows Explorer to Windows Explorer:
Works flawlessly with any file.

---------------------------------------

If you are able to fix it: it would be nice if background processing and custom copy
would work, too.
One of my scripts helped you out? Please donate via Paypal or paypal_donate (at) stdmail (dot) de

Post Reply