Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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RalphM
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Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

Post by RalphM »

I upgraded from .0203 to .0208 and suddenly my startup times blew out by approx 100'000 ms (due to a mapped drive on NAS up and running).
Downgrading to .0203 got it back to normal again.
Didn't read anything about changes in this area.

.0208 Loadtimes

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0208
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-04 20:04:13 in 111,808 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     750 ms - Start Load
   750 ms:      43 ms - Init Language
   793 ms:     158 ms - Load Language
   951 ms:     191 ms - Load Settings
 1,142 ms:      21 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,163 ms:     116 ms - Init Controls
 1,279 ms:     469 ms - Init Graphics
 1,748 ms:      86 ms - Init Tabs
 1,834 ms:     164 ms - Create Info Panel
 1,998 ms:     418 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,416 ms:     175 ms - Init Panes
 2,593 ms:      35 ms - Drives To Array
 2,628 ms:  104,662 ms - RestoreMappedNetworkDrive M:\
107,290 ms:      15 ms - RestoreMappedNetworkDrive N:\
107,308 ms:      14 ms - Add Drive C:\
107,328 ms:      20 ms - Add Drive G:\
107,348 ms:      47 ms - Add Drive M:\
107,400 ms:      41 ms - Add Portable Devices
107,441 ms:     110 ms - Tab Icons
107,551 ms:      17 ms - Load Catalog
107,571 ms:     406 ms - Load Maxi Tree
...
110,988 ms:     135 ms - Go Start Path Expanded: D:\Daten\Setups\
111,123 ms:      68 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
111,191 ms:      20 ms - Init UDC and KS
111,211 ms:      11 ms - Load This Pane
111,224 ms:      25 ms - List Browse: D:\Daten\Setups\
111,265 ms:      41 ms - Layout Bars
111,306 ms:     167 ms - Layout Catalog
111,473 ms:     131 ms - Layout List
111,604 ms:      51 ms - Show Window
111,655 ms:     121 ms - Layout List
111,780 ms:      13 ms - Fav Menus
111,797 ms:      11 ms - XYcopy Init
111,808 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1308, Nodes=1308, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=2
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/86, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103
.0203 Loadtimes

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0203
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-04 20:07:26 in 5,686 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     710 ms - Start Load
   710 ms:      38 ms - Init Language
   748 ms:     150 ms - Load Language
   898 ms:     149 ms - Load Settings
 1,047 ms:      15 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,062 ms:     102 ms - Init Controls
 1,164 ms:     438 ms - Init Graphics
 1,602 ms:      87 ms - Init Tabs
 1,689 ms:     187 ms - Create Info Panel
 1,876 ms:     315 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,191 ms:     121 ms - Init Panes
 2,314 ms:      19 ms - Drives To Array
 2,333 ms:      19 ms - RestoreMappedNetworkDrive M:\
 2,352 ms:      13 ms - RestoreMappedNetworkDrive N:\
 2,378 ms:      11 ms - Add Drive G:\
 2,389 ms:      18 ms - Add Drive M:\
 2,411 ms:      29 ms - Add Portable Devices
 2,440 ms:      85 ms - Tab Icons
 2,525 ms:      17 ms - Load Catalog
 2,544 ms:     258 ms - Load Maxi Tree
 ...
 4,162 ms:     150 ms - Go Start Path: D:\Daten\Setups\XYplorer\
 4,312 ms:     119 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
 4,431 ms:      29 ms - Init UDC and KS
 4,460 ms:      15 ms - Load This Pane
 4,476 ms:      41 ms - List Browse: D:\Daten\Setups\XYplorer\
 4,526 ms:      13 ms - List Browse: D:\Daten\Privat\Squash\Team Builder\THUMS\2021-1\Result Sheets\
 4,541 ms:      63 ms - Layout Bars
 4,604 ms:     359 ms - Layout Catalog
 4,963 ms:     236 ms - Layout List
 5,199 ms:     156 ms - Show Window
 5,355 ms:     297 ms - Layout List
 5,660 ms:      12 ms - Fav Menus
 5,686 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1308, Nodes=1308, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=2
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/179, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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Must have been some weird network failure. Or can you reproduce it?

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

Post by RalphM »

Weird, now it even happens with .0203 and needed 4 clicks to actually start XY.

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0203
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-05 01:40:26 in 186,303 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     777 ms - Start Load
   777 ms:      34 ms - Init Language
   811 ms:     179 ms - Load Language
   990 ms:     163 ms - Load Settings
 1,153 ms:      17 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,170 ms:     115 ms - Init Controls
 1,285 ms:     451 ms - Init Graphics
 1,736 ms:      92 ms - Init Tabs
 1,828 ms:     208 ms - Create Info Panel
 2,036 ms:     333 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,369 ms:     135 ms - Init Panes
 2,506 ms:      18 ms - Drives To Array
 2,524 ms:  180,054 ms - RestoreMappedNetworkDrive N:\
...
184,616 ms:     174 ms - Go Start Path Expanded: D:\Temp\
184,790 ms:      97 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
184,887 ms:      25 ms - Init UDC and KS
184,912 ms:      14 ms - Load This Pane
184,929 ms:     180 ms - List Browse: D:\Temp\
185,109 ms:      10 ms - Load Other Pane
185,132 ms:      66 ms - Layout Bars
185,198 ms:     363 ms - Layout Catalog
185,561 ms:     215 ms - Layout List
185,776 ms:     100 ms - Show Window
185,876 ms:     392 ms - Layout List
186,275 ms:      12 ms - Fav Menus
186,293 ms:      10 ms - XYcopy Init
186,303 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1308, Nodes=1308, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=3
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/2065, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103
then after upgrade to .0208 again it was back to normal once and the second time it took over a minute again.
This time around it hung on restoring a mapped drive (N:/) that is currently not connected.
???
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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Network is strange these days even here. Maybe the internet is falling apart.

There's always the last resort of unticking this: Configuration | General | Startup & Exit | Reconnect mapped network drives on startup

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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PS: Probably useless but I tried something: viewtopic.php?p=188078#p188078

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

Post by RalphM »

Upgraded to .0300 and restart after upgrade was quick but then the restart as regular user had 2 mins wasted on that (currently not connected) N:/ drive.
Message is slightly different now.

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0300
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-05 16:51:20 in 134,221 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     801 ms - Start Load
   801 ms:      37 ms - Init Language
   838 ms:     235 ms - Load Language
 1,073 ms:     212 ms - Load Settings
 1,285 ms:      15 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,300 ms:     142 ms - Init Controls
 1,442 ms:     470 ms - Init Graphics
 1,912 ms:     102 ms - Init Tabs
 2,014 ms:     182 ms - Create Info Panel
 2,196 ms:     358 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,554 ms:     142 ms - Init Panes
 2,698 ms:      19 ms - Drives To Array
 2,718 ms:  127,579 ms - WNetAddConnection2W n: -> \\DS213\usbshare1
...
132,617 ms:     132 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
132,749 ms:      26 ms - Init UDC and KS
132,775 ms:      14 ms - Load This Pane
132,791 ms:      51 ms - List Browse: D:\yyy\
132,851 ms:      10 ms - List Browse: D:\xxx\
132,864 ms:      65 ms - Layout Bars
132,929 ms:     358 ms - Layout Catalog
133,287 ms:     346 ms - Layout List
133,633 ms:     162 ms - Show Window
133,795 ms:     377 ms - Layout List
134,180 ms:      26 ms - Fav Menus
134,221 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1308, Nodes=1308, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=3
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/180, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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Yes, I refined the messages to identify the culprit.

Nothing has been changed in this area for a long time so I would guess you see the same in older versions of XY. Even so, I saw something that could be improved (according to the sparse MS documents). Check out the next beta.

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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And, is it any better now?

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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No, unfortunately not yet, see load times below.

The only thing I've changed recently was to change my VPN (PIA) to split tunnel to exclude a few apps from using VPN due to specific problems (Outlook, Epson Scan, CCTV viewing apps) but this doesn't explain the changes in load times here and I've even tried to exclude XY from it (see last log in the code section below) but to no avail.

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0301
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-06 12:30:31 in 124,849 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     841 ms - Start Load
   841 ms:      44 ms - Init Language
   885 ms:     219 ms - Load Language
 1,104 ms:     172 ms - Load Settings
 1,276 ms:      17 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,293 ms:     155 ms - Init Controls
 1,448 ms:     484 ms - Init Graphics
 1,932 ms:      98 ms - Init Tabs
 2,030 ms:     219 ms - Create Info Panel
 2,249 ms:     373 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,622 ms:     127 ms - Init Panes
 2,751 ms:      48 ms - Drives To Array
 2,801 ms:  118,313 ms - WNetAddConnection2W N: -> \\DS213\usbshare1
121,114 ms:      10 ms - Add Drive C:\
121,129 ms:      13 ms - Add Drive G:\
121,151 ms:      30 ms - Add Portable Devices
121,181 ms:      89 ms - Tab Icons
121,270 ms:      20 ms - Load Catalog
121,291 ms:     286 ms - Load Maxi Tree
...
122,833 ms:     178 ms - Go Start Path Expanded: D:\Temp\
123,011 ms:     117 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
123,128 ms:      26 ms - Init UDC and KS
123,154 ms:      14 ms - Load This Pane
123,171 ms:     186 ms - List Browse: D:\Temp\
123,378 ms:      70 ms - Layout Bars
123,448 ms:     341 ms - Layout Catalog
123,789 ms:     202 ms - Layout List
123,991 ms:     140 ms - Show Window
124,131 ms:     685 ms - Layout List
124,822 ms:      11 ms - Fav Menus
124,839 ms:      10 ms - XYcopy Init
124,849 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1308, Nodes=1308, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=3
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/2067, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103

After restart / Norton Exclusion update

XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0301
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-06 13:42:23 in 38,378 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     532 ms - Start Load
   532 ms:      64 ms - Init Language
   596 ms:     210 ms - Load Language
   806 ms:     213 ms - Load Settings
 1,019 ms:      19 ms - Init Custom File Icons
 1,038 ms:     140 ms - Init Controls
 1,178 ms:     557 ms - Init Graphics
 1,735 ms:     121 ms - Init Tabs
 1,856 ms:     283 ms - Create Info Panel
 2,139 ms:     443 ms - Set Interface Font
 2,582 ms:     162 ms - Init Panes
 2,748 ms:      31 ms - Drives To Array
 2,780 ms:  30,694 ms - WNetAddConnection2W N: -> \\DS213\usbshare1
33,474 ms:      11 ms - Add Drive C:\
33,490 ms:      19 ms - Add Drive G:\
33,521 ms:      41 ms - Add Portable Devices
33,562 ms:     103 ms - Tab Icons
33,665 ms:      22 ms - Load Catalog
33,690 ms:     264 ms - Load Maxi Tree
...
36,995 ms:     120 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
37,115 ms:      31 ms - Init UDC and KS
37,146 ms:      15 ms - Load This Pane
37,163 ms:      40 ms - List Browse: D:\Daten\Setups\PicPick\
37,203 ms:      10 ms - Load Other Pane
37,213 ms:      10 ms - List Browse: D:\Daten\Privat\Squash\Team Builder\THUMS\2021-1\Result Sheets\
37,226 ms:      68 ms - Layout Bars
37,294 ms:     417 ms - Layout Catalog
37,711 ms:     192 ms - Layout List
37,903 ms:     173 ms - Show Window
38,076 ms:     243 ms - Layout List
38,327 ms:      25 ms - Fav Menus
38,359 ms:      19 ms - XYcopy Init
38,378 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1310, Nodes=1310, Expanded=232, Mapped Drives=3
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=1/1, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103

After excluding and re-including XY from using VPN

XY ver: 	XYplorer 21.80.0301
OS:     	Windows 10 Windows 10, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19043.985
Loaded: 	2021-06-06 14:01:02 in 204,068 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms

     0 ms:     688 ms - Start Load
   688 ms:      38 ms - Init Language
   726 ms:     126 ms - Load Language
   852 ms:     130 ms - Load Settings
   982 ms:      10 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   992 ms:      55 ms - Init Controls
 1,047 ms:     224 ms - Init Graphics
 1,271 ms:      47 ms - Init Tabs
 1,318 ms:     157 ms - Create Info Panel
 1,475 ms:     359 ms - Set Interface Font
 1,834 ms:     143 ms - Init Panes
 1,979 ms:      26 ms - Drives To Array
 2,007 ms:  198,657 ms - WNetAddConnection2W N: -> \\DS213\usbshare1
200,677 ms:      14 ms - Add Drive G:\
200,700 ms:      27 ms - Add Portable Devices
200,727 ms:      87 ms - Tab Icons
200,814 ms:      18 ms - Load Catalog
200,834 ms:     223 ms - Load Maxi Tree
...
202,376 ms:     144 ms - Go Start Path Expanded: D:\Temp\
202,520 ms:      79 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
202,599 ms:      24 ms - Init UDC and KS
202,623 ms:      13 ms - Load This Pane
202,639 ms:     171 ms - List Browse: D:\Temp\
202,829 ms:      66 ms - Layout Bars
202,895 ms:     359 ms - Layout Catalog
203,254 ms:     208 ms - Layout List
203,462 ms:     102 ms - Show Window
203,564 ms:     465 ms - Layout List
204,029 ms:      12 ms - Init Menus
204,041 ms:      11 ms - Fav Menus
204,058 ms:      10 ms - XYcopy Init
204,068 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1310, Nodes=1310, Expanded=231, Mapped Drives=3
Tree Remember State: Yes (139 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Pane 1: Items=25/2068, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=103
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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Completely uninstall your vpn software, restart, try it again?
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Re: Slow start-up after upgrade to v20.80.0208

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A complete re-install of PIA VPN seems to have solved the problem for me, even with exactly the same settings.
Though I also removed the mapping for the N:/ drive and updated XY several times.
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 22H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

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