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Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by TheQwerty » 02 Dec 2015 22:23

As this is a pretty big change I'm creating a general topic for small conversation, issues, questions, etc.

Hopefully, my decision to put this in Bug Reports will be ill-suited, but I figured it might be the only place some people look for existing discussions/reports.


If a specific topic grows too large for this thread we can always have one of the moderators split it off into a new one.

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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by TheQwerty » 03 Dec 2015 15:51

Playing around some more today and testing out the various handlers that ShellExView says are available.
  • Windows TXT Previewer (.bat.cmd.reg - as text)
    :tup: Works but it is awful - kudos for XY's being much better.
  • Windows Media Player Rich Preview Handler
    :tup: Again it works but generally XY already does better.
    :bug: One exception is XY claims "Cannot decode" anytime an MP3 contains ID3v2.4 tags, while this handler previews them fine.
  • Windows Font Previewer (.fon.otf.pfm.ttc.tft)
    :bug: XY says "Cannot preview".
    Granted WE doesn't show them in the preview pane here instead using a Preview verb to open another process.
    *shrugs*

    EDIT: Ah, the above is the case when viewing fonts in C:\Windows\Fonts.

    :om: For fonts outside of that folder WE shows the preview but XY shows the thumbnail instead of using the handler.
    /edit

    Off-topic; XY needs to up its fonts in list game. WE's thumbnails and actual names are pretty nice:
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    Windows 7 WE font thumbnails.
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    EDIT: :tup: XY does show thumbs outside of C:\Windows\Fonts though:
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    XY font thumbs in and out of C:\Windows\Fonts
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    /edit

    :bug: Also, having these in both the Web & Office (disabled) and Font (enabled) categories results in confusion and ugliness:
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    XY showing disabled preview warning and font preview at the same time.
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  • MAPI Mail Previewer (.msg)
    :blackstorm: Crashes XY after showing the less than useful:
    [Main Instruction]
    XYplorer has stopped working

    [Content]
    A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the program.

    [Close the program] [Debug the program]

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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by SammaySarkar » 03 Dec 2015 16:33

XY does show thumbs outside of C:\Windows\Fonts though:
:whistle: get 'em in fonts too! rename windir\fonts\desktop.ini -> refresh thumb cache -> derename desktop.ini :whistle:

ed: Don, why's there a black bg in font thumbs?
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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by admin » 03 Dec 2015 16:51

OK, thanks for keeping me busy. :)

But first of all: After 7 hours of hardcore Mark Watney coding I seem to have fixed the PDF crash. :beer: Well, at least here. :ninja:

- Windows Media Player Rich Preview Handler
OK: this will become handy in step 2 and 3 of preview 2.0....

- Windows Font Previewer
Works here in beta. Wait for upload...

- font thumbnails
I get them here, but with black background. Tried but failed to changed that. :\
EDIT: Yes, no thumbs in C:\Windows\Fonts\. Argh. Read "The Martian" and you know how my days are...

- MAPI Mail Previewer (.msg)
NO crash here. I get a message (wherever that comes from) -- see attached image. This message (says "no associated app found" bla bla) comes only once per session. Something is being smart here.
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Post by admin » 03 Dec 2015 16:52

Nobody out there with Office 64-bit??? I'm sure I need the 32-bit handlers, but the question is whether MS is so nice to install them on 64-bit Windows.

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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by TheQwerty » 03 Dec 2015 17:29

Sol 3
admin wrote:- Windows Font Previewer
Works here in beta. Wait for upload...
:tup: Confirmed working here, though scrolling the preview with mouse-wheel does not. I suspect that's Microsoft's fault though.
admin wrote:- MAPI Mail Previewer (.msg)
NO crash here. I get a message (wherever that comes from) -- see attached image. This message (says "no associated app found" bla bla) comes only once per session. Something is being smart here.
:tup: This works now - I don't get any dialog like your's. It takes a few seconds and eventually renders the message correctly. (The preview itself kind of sucks but that's not on you.)
admin wrote:But first of all: After 7 hours of hardcore Mark Watney coding I seem to have fixed the PDF crash. :beer: Well, at least here. :ninja:
:ghost: Unfortunately, only there. I see no difference in behavior on PDFs in .0225.
EDIT: More deets over here: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 95#p132295 /edit
admin wrote:OK, thanks for keeping me busy. :)
There's no shortage of ideas to program the shit out of here! ;)

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Post by admin » 03 Dec 2015 20:37

TheQwerty wrote:Sol 3
admin wrote:- Windows Font Previewer
Works here in beta. Wait for upload...
:tup: Confirmed working here, though scrolling the preview with mouse-wheel does not. I suspect that's Microsoft's fault though.
I think so since also in Explorer (win8.1) the in-list font preview does not obey to the wheel.

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Post by Marco » 04 Dec 2015 00:32

admin wrote:Nobody out there with Office 64-bit??? I'm sure I need the 32-bit handlers, but the question is whether MS is so nice to install them on 64-bit Windows.
I do have it.
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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by admin » 04 Dec 2015 08:24

Marco wrote:
admin wrote:Nobody out there with Office 64-bit??? I'm sure I need the 32-bit handlers, but the question is whether MS is so nice to install them on 64-bit Windows.
I do have it.
And? Does the preview work?

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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by Marco » 04 Dec 2015 11:01

Yes! Tested with *.docx, *.xlsx, *.ppt and *.pptx!
Concerning *.pdf, now I get the MDBU, but is there any way you can increase the quality? It looks a bit blurred, but not in an uniform way.
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Post by admin » 04 Dec 2015 11:52

Marco wrote:Yes! Tested with *.docx, *.xlsx, *.ppt and *.pptx!
Concerning *.pdf, now I get the MDBU, but is there any way you can increase the quality? It looks a bit blurred, but not in an uniform way.
1) Great!

2) " now I get the MDBU" ... what do you mean?

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Post by Marco » 04 Dec 2015 12:27

2) My fault, sorry - I could get the MDBU on pdf files even on previous betas. Anyway, any chance you can increase the quality of such previews?
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Post by admin » 04 Dec 2015 12:32

Marco wrote:2) My fault, sorry - I could get the MDBU on pdf files even on previous betas. Anyway, any chance you can increase the quality of such previews?
Remove/untick "pdf" in Previewed Formats and you get the thumbnail preview with MDBU.

Quality: If you mean the new previews I cannot do anything. The quality is determined by the size of the preview window.

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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by Linkaday » 04 Dec 2015 18:43

[win 7.1 64-bit IE 11]

HTML with some javascripts embedded (here Google pagead & analytics)

throwing the notorious script errors at me, although disabled in IE advanced options (btw never noticed before, MS did split up this option into IE & "other applications").

Denying to run scripts is just ignored and XY starts chewing ...
showing the pagead at last whereas IE throws the script blocking warning instead
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Re: Preview 2.0 - Generic Thread

Post by admin » 04 Dec 2015 18:54

Not nice, but nothing can be done here AFAIK (and it is not related to Preview 2.0).

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