Issues with "Tag Cloud" feature

[ezne]

I just began using this great new feature, and I came across these issues:

A) When creating a ''Tag Cloud' category in Catalog pane, it shows tags that I had already deleted days ago (in List Management: Tag List everything shows ok and up-to-date). Even after clicking Reload Tags Database in Favorites menu...

B) Tags beginning with ! or / are not recognised, showing in search result all tagged files (any tag)

C) "Tag Cloud" category in Catalog does not refresh when adding new tags.


Are all these bugs or there is something I am missing in the configuration?

Thank you!

[admin]

A) It shows all tags that are currently assigned to files. This is independent of "tag list" which is just an MRU list of assigned tags.
B) Don't understand. You have an example?
C) Yes. This was never intended.

[ezne]

A) Strange, I have no files anymore tagged with those old tags. Is there a way to flush that?

B) I have a tag "/tax.2014" and another tag "!berlin". Several files are tagged with these. But when using the "Tag Clous" feature a list with ALL files (any tag) shows when ticking the box of tag "/tax.2014" (or tag "!berlin"). On top of the list of files it shows:

Name Search: /T instead of Name Search: /tax.2014 /T


C) Thank you, I will have that in mind in my workflow.

[bdeshi]

B) / ! etc are special characters used for searching. If your search term itself has these chars, then just quote the term. So you'll need to use these:

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"/tax.2014" /T

or

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tags:"!berlin" /t

[admin]

Actually, "Insert as New Category Here | Tags" should do the quoting if necessary. I'll check why it stopped doing that. Looks like a bug indeed...

UPDATE: Got it. I never added it. Coming...

[bdeshi]

Now I'm confused, I thought quoting special characters ought to be the standard. My understanding is (was?) that tag:!berlin /t will find all items NOT tagged berlin...

[admin]

Yes, correct. But when a tag is called "!berlin" then you have to quote it: tag:"!berlin" /t

[bdeshi]

But now (v14.10.108) if I search for tag:!berlin /t only the item tagged !berlin come up, not the items NOT tagged so. Apparently tag:!berlin /t and tag:"!berlin" /t have become equal.

[admin]

It's tags:, not tag:

[bdeshi]

Typo
Anyways, I got more confused.
1) tag one item with just "!tag" in a folder
2) tag another item with "nottag" in he same folder
3) now search for tags:!tag /t in that folder

[admin]

Yes. All works as expected here. What results do you get?

[bdeshi]

Exactly what I did:
Opened a fresh copy, no tagged files.
Created Click and Search Category. Search operator is AND
Added a Search item with pattern: tags:!tagged /T
went to <xypath>
tagged LicenseXY.txt with "nottagged"
tagged ReadmeXY.txt with "!tagged"
Clicked the search item.
Both files show up as search result.

But tags:"!tagged" /T only correctly result into just ReadmeXY.txt.

[admin]

Yeah, as advertised.

The term tags:!tagged /T means: find all tagged items that do not have a tag "tagged". So you correctly find items tagged "nottagged" and "!tagged".

The term tags:"!tagged" /T means: find all tagged items that have a tag "!tagged".

[bdeshi]

The term tags:!tagged /T means: find all tagged items that do not have a tag "tagged". So you correctly find items tagged "nottagged" and "!tagged".

Now I get it ! And I was thinking it triggered both NOT tagged and IS !tagged...
My mind is set correctly now, thanks for the explanation.

[ezne]

Hello,

now I am running 14.20.0200 and "Tag Cloud" feature lists correctly files tagged with tag "!berlin", but still has the same bug regarding files tagged with "/tax.2014" (it lists ALL files when checking the box). On top of the list of files it shows:

Name Search: /T instead of Name Search: "/tax.2014" /T

Thank you for all your efforts finetuning this amazing tool!