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Borut
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Re: COVID-19

Post by Borut » 09 Apr 2020 09:02

Have seen yesterday on a German TV channel discussion:

Breaking news testing results show the following:

The nose-mouth (=OP) mask protects also the wearer, although not much, but still!
The hand made cotton mask is usually only 1/5th as effective as the above.
The masks that are hand made from a one-time vacuum cleaner dust bag are almost as affective as the OP masks.
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Re: COVID-19

Post by oblivion » 09 Apr 2020 09:27

I think we need to get away from the idea that we can protect ourselves with masks. There ARE masks that will protect the wearer -- but for the foreseeable, we need our health services to be the primary recipient of these. Plus which, that level of protection has to be cared for, carefully managed, carefully handled and carefully disposed of.

Homemade cloth masks protect others.

Maybe not perfectly but we don't need perfect; we need to cut transmission to manageable levels, to support and protect our health systems.

You cough into the air, you spread virus. Anyone close enough is at risk.

You cough into a cloth mask, particularly if you have a disposable paper towel between the layers, the amount of virus you spread is cut enormously. The disposable bit -- the paper towel -- is cheap and easy to replace, and washing the cloth with soap kills any virus it might have on it.

This makes sense -- but only if take-up is close to universal.

So we need good, cheap, funky, socially acceptable designs. Not everyone wants to look like a dentist.
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Re: COVID-19

Post by admin » 12 Apr 2020 14:37

Meanwhile in Germany: No mask requirement, not even a recommendation, just a lame "you may do it (if it makes you feel better)"; not even in public transport, supermarkets, work spaces. No special shopping hours for seniors (even the USA have that). Streets and parks crowded with people. At an average of 4000 new attested infections and 200 dead every day we are far from containment phase, but in the media everybody is speaking of finally going back to business as usual. Incredible amounts of money are shifted around, but many businesses and futures will be destroyed anyway. It would have been possible to handle this, it could have been over (=containment phase) by now, but lack of courage and discipline brought us elsewhere. Well, we're still monkeys with tools after all, shouldn't expect too much... :roll:
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Re: COVID-19

Post by klownboy » 12 Apr 2020 18:56

admin wrote:
12 Apr 2020 14:37
No special shopping hours for seniors (even the USA have that).
Yes, I've been taking advantage of those store hours - depending on the store - 6 am to 7 am for seniors. Everyone but one :bug: that I saw in the store last week wore a mask. :masked: It made me feel more comfortable being out. My daughters would kill me if they knew I went out at all. :)

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Re: COVID-19

Post by admin » 12 Apr 2020 19:48

You have the virus and your daughters on your heels?! Good luck! :biggrin:
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Re: COVID-19

Post by klownboy » 12 Apr 2020 20:57

admin wrote:
12 Apr 2020 19:48
You have the virus and your daughters on your heels?! Good luck! :biggrin:
No, maybe you misunderstood, I don't have the virus. My daughters are making sure I stay that way!

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Re: COVID-19

Post by admin » 12 Apr 2020 21:41

Yes, I think I understood. You are between the lines.
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Re: COVID-19

Post by klownboy » 13 Apr 2020 00:26

I guess I read (or actually misread) your previous comment. :)

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