Why does turning off the Mini Tree disable UNC paths?

[tombriggs]

If I turn off the Mini Tree (View | Mini Tree | Mini Tree) and then type a UNC path into the address bar (\\server\share) I get a "Location currently not available" error. Am I misunderstanding how the Mini Tree works or is this a bug?

Thanks
-Tom

[admin]

Hi and welcome,

does it help to tick Configuration | General | Show Network folder?

Don

[tombriggs]

This problem seems to have gone away; I can now navigate directly to network shares by typing the UNC path into the address bar when the Mini Tree is enabled. The "Show Network Folders" option was disabled, but I didn't have to enable it to solve the problem... it just started working again. I did upgrade to 10.80.03 recently, so I'm going to guess that something in one of the recent upgrades fixed it. Thanks though.

[admin]

This problem seems to have gone away; I can now navigate directly to network shares by typing the UNC path into the address bar when the Mini Tree is enabled. The "Show Network Folders" option was disabled, but I didn't have to enable it to solve the problem... it just started working again. I did upgrade to 10.80.03 recently, so I'm going to guess that something in one of the recent upgrades fixed it. Thanks though.

Anyway, I experimentally changed something so that also non-existing folders will remain in the Mini Tree. Upload soon. Look out for Zombies!

I'm curious for comments.

[LittleBiG]

I welcome Zombies, I probably will like them

1. Bug: when I unmount a drive then restart XYplorer, now the folders are there. It is ok. But after that, when I reconnect the drive and click on the root folder in mini tree, all subfolder of this drive disappear suddenly.
EDIT: the folder didn't disappear, but collapsed. (PlusMinus is not shown in my configuraton, so I didn't realize first) After double clicking on root, the drive expands, so there is my all "disappeared" folder. So the problem is the collapsing by one click.
EDIT2: Something is not ok yet. I had one folder on G: drive in the mini tree. After remounting, and clicking on root, that folder became collapsed. I double clicked on the root (in order to show the folder), and all folder are showed in mini tree, but the mentioned folder is doubled

2. Comment: maybe some visual aid would be good to indicate that the folder is inaccessible at the moment. Of course, not vital.

[admin]

I welcome Zombies, I probably will like them

1. Bug: when I unmount a drive then restart XYplorer, now the folders are there. It is ok. But after that, when I reconnect the drive and click on the root folder in mini tree, all subfolder of this drive disappear suddenly.
EDIT: the folder didn't disappear, but collapsed. (PlusMinus is not shown in my configuraton, so I didn't realize first) After double clicking on root, the drive expands, so there is my all "disappeared" folder. So the problem is the collapsing by one click.
EDIT2: Something is not ok yet. I had one folder on G: drive in the mini tree. After remounting, and clicking on root, that folder became collapsed. I double clicked on the root (in order to show the folder), and all folder are showed in mini tree, but the mentioned folder is doubled

2. Comment: maybe some visual aid would be good to indicate that the folder is inaccessible at the moment. Of course, not vital.

I'm not sure yet about this experiment. MT w/out zombies is a time-tested concept. I already see downsides to zombies. I might add it as a tweak. And I might restrict it to items on non-existing drives.

Can you give me steps to produce a doubled folder? I don't manage...

[LittleBiG]

Can you give me steps to produce a doubled folder? I don't manage...

Sure.

1. Lock the tree.
2. Mount a drive which doesn't exist in the mini tree (an USB hard drive here, label is G:)
3. Go to G:, then G:\Backup\
4. Push button with a script "Add folder to mini tree", coded as: loadtree "<curpath>", 1 .Now mini tree shows G:\ and G:\Backup\
5. Disconnect G: drive
6. Check non-accessibility by clicking on them.
7. Restart XYplorer
8. Connect G: again, wait for stand up.
9. Click on G:\backup\ first, the G:\. Now G:\Backup\ disappears, because G:\ is collapsed (as if I double clicked on that).
10. Double click on G:\ in mini tree in order to expand G:\ (to show G:\Backup\). But all subfolders of G:\ appear, and Backup folder is doubled.

[admin]

Confirmed and fixed.

[LittleBiG]

I'm playing with Zombies and I wanted to fresh my list view. But accidentaly I clicked on blue arrow (refreshing list AND tree) and my all Zombies had been killed. So I learnt that F4 (Refresh tree) is a real Zombie-killer. Is it intentional? Or a bug?

By the way, I'm really sorry, that I can't set blue arrow to refresh list by default, and not by right clicking...

[admin]

I'm playing with Zombies and I wanted to fresh my list view. But accidentaly I clicked on blue arrow (refreshing list AND tree) and my all Zombies had been killed. So I learnt that F4 (Refresh tree) is a real Zombie-killer. Is it intentional? Or a bug?

By the way, I'm really sorry, that I can't set blue arrow to refresh list by default, and not by right clicking...

If Refresh Tree wouldn't be a real Zombie-killer it would be nothing. There should be a Zombie-killer available, or?

I see the problem with "Refresh". In XY "Refresh" had always been Refresh List for many years, until I got persuaded to change it to Refresh Tree and List. I personally remapped my shortcuts the next second so that F5 is Refresh List again. Maybe I should not have let them persuade me in the first place...

[LittleBiG]

If Refresh Tree wouldn't be a real Zombie-killer it would be nothing. There should be a Zombie-killer available, or?

That's right and it seems logical to me. But I'm not happy when a normal refresh ruins my petted Zombies.

I personally remapped my shortcuts the next second so that F5 is Refresh List again.

Same here, remapped as well.

Maybe I should not have let them persuade me in the first place...

Agree. I remember, as a new XYplorer user, I was very confused why a simple refresh took a long time. Then you explained it was because of refreshing the tree, not only the list. After that you indicated refreshing process in the status bar.

[eil]

I see the problem with "Refresh". In XY "Refresh" had always been Refresh List for many years, until I got persuaded to change it to Refresh Tree and List. I personally remapped my shortcuts the next second so that F5 is Refresh List again.

as i remapped it too, i see swaping factory shortcuts for these two, as a good idea.

[admin]

I see the problem with "Refresh". In XY "Refresh" had always been Refresh List for many years, until I got persuaded to change it to Refresh Tree and List. I personally remapped my shortcuts the next second so that F5 is Refresh List again.

as i remapped it too, i see swaping factory shortcuts for these two, as a good idea.

Well, many in this forum were for the current state. And it's the standard in most file managers I think.