Undo/Redo
Re: Undo/Redo
Not really a bug, maybe more of a wish for Undo 2.0 I guess...
I know that the AL/Undo/Redo is meant for file operations, but I would really like to see it "expanded" to a few more actions. Yes, XY-specific actions, but let's be honest all actions logged are XY-specific already, in that they need to occur within XY obviously. And while part of XY and not affecting the files (read: items, files and folders, but w/e) themselves/directly, I still consider them to be file operations as well.
I am talking about things like Tags & Comments, but also Highlighted Folders & Boxed Branches. I also realize that it might not have been planned and, unlike other operations logged where only two arguments are saved, here we would need a third (since we have original state (tag, highlight color, comment, etc to restore/undo to), new state in addition to, of course, the items names), but AFAIC when I set a tag to a file, it is as much a file operation as it as when I rename said file, and part of my work flow has me using tags, highlighted folders or comments as in integral part of my system. I appreciate that when I move a file its tags/comments move along, and that when I undo the move operation they move back with it as well.
But I would also really like it if after setting a file to tag "red" only to realize it was a mistake, I could simply hit Undo and it would switch back to "orange" -- because as I said, to me, changing a tag, comment or highlight color falls under the same category of file operations as does renaming or moving it. Those are file operations as well, and ones I would love to see logged & be able to undo/redo.
I know that the AL/Undo/Redo is meant for file operations, but I would really like to see it "expanded" to a few more actions. Yes, XY-specific actions, but let's be honest all actions logged are XY-specific already, in that they need to occur within XY obviously. And while part of XY and not affecting the files (read: items, files and folders, but w/e) themselves/directly, I still consider them to be file operations as well.
I am talking about things like Tags & Comments, but also Highlighted Folders & Boxed Branches. I also realize that it might not have been planned and, unlike other operations logged where only two arguments are saved, here we would need a third (since we have original state (tag, highlight color, comment, etc to restore/undo to), new state in addition to, of course, the items names), but AFAIC when I set a tag to a file, it is as much a file operation as it as when I rename said file, and part of my work flow has me using tags, highlighted folders or comments as in integral part of my system. I appreciate that when I move a file its tags/comments move along, and that when I undo the move operation they move back with it as well.
But I would also really like it if after setting a file to tag "red" only to realize it was a mistake, I could simply hit Undo and it would switch back to "orange" -- because as I said, to me, changing a tag, comment or highlight color falls under the same category of file operations as does renaming or moving it. Those are file operations as well, and ones I would love to see logged & be able to undo/redo.
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Re: Undo/Redo
Finally catching up with the rest of the gang here...
Hadn't installed any of the undo/redo betas till today...so did so and as my first test, did a simple delete of a JPG to get something in the Action Log...but what I'm puzzled by is the section at bottom which seems to be for showing the weird internal name in the RB yet on mine, it showed as "(unknown)"...huh?
XY was able to recover it fine but I was expecting it to have "Dc24418.jpg" there as XY has when I view the RB itself.
Hadn't installed any of the undo/redo betas till today...so did so and as my first test, did a simple delete of a JPG to get something in the Action Log...but what I'm puzzled by is the section at bottom which seems to be for showing the weird internal name in the RB yet on mine, it showed as "(unknown)"...huh?
XY was able to recover it fine but I was expecting it to have "Dc24418.jpg" there as XY has when I view the RB itself.
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Re: Undo/Redo
On Win 2K, right?j_c_hallgren wrote:Finally catching up with the rest of the gang here...
Hadn't installed any of the undo/redo betas till today...so did so and as my first test, did a simple delete of a JPG to get something in the Action Log...but what I'm puzzled by is the section at bottom which seems to be for showing the weird internal name in the RB yet on mine, it showed as "(unknown)"...huh?
XY was able to recover it fine but I was expecting it to have "Dc24418.jpg" there as XY has when I view the RB itself.
Not sure yet, what's happening. The same issue is seen in Vista/Win7 apparently. I'm right now researching it. The next version will do some internal logging. You can see the log by using <get debuglog>. For example when I delete a file (to recycler) and then run the script
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text "<get debuglog>";
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14:35:41.431 >> 4: E:\ClipSpy.rc¿
14:35:41.451 >> SHCNE_DELETE
14:35:41.451 >> SHCNE_DELETE: E:\ClipSpy.rc | ClipSpy.rc | E:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1606980848-492894223-854245398-1003\De3497.rc | De3497.rc
14:35:41.451 >> mod 4: E:\ClipSpy.rc|E:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1606980848-492894223-854245398-1003\De3497.rc
14:35:41.451 >> SHCNE_DELETE
14:35:41.451 >> SHCNE_DELETE: E:\ClipSpy.rc | ClipSpy.rc | E:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1606980848-492894223-854245398-1003\De3497.rc | De3497.rc
14:35:41.451 >> mod 4: E:\ClipSpy.rc|E:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1606980848-492894223-854245398-1003\De3497.rc
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Re: Undo/Redo
Yes, I'm the obsolete W2K guy... Hey, at least you have someone to check it!admin wrote:On Win 2K, right?j_c_hallgren wrote:XY was able to recover it fine but I was expecting it to have "Dc24418.jpg" there as XY has when I view the RB itself.
Please, with the next version, try this...
And will try that on next vers and let you know what I get...
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Re: Undo/Redo
OK, here's part 2 of it, for the Vista/Win7 crowd. After you tried to restore such an item with "unknown" recycle bin name, do again . Then you should see something like this:
Please let me know how this looks under Vista/Win7, thanks! (In the next version, upload within about 1 hour).
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text "<get debuglog>";
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14:52:33.826 >> rd 0: Name = StdAfx.h
14:52:33.826 >> rd 1: Ursprung = E:\VB-Don\TestFiles\Temp\Aa231xy\a
14:52:33.826 >> rd 2: Löschdatum = 24.10.2009 16:50
14:52:33.826 >> rd 3: Größe = 4 KB
14:52:33.826 >> rd 4: Typ = H-Datei
14:52:33.826 >> rd 5: Geändert am = 27.09.2001 12:44
14:52:33.826 >> rd 6: Erstellt am = 24.10.2009 16:50
14:52:33.826 >> rd 7: Letzter Zugriff am = 24.10.2009 16:50
14:52:33.826 >> rd 8: Attribute = A
14:52:33.826 >> rd 9: Status = Online
14:52:33.826 >> rd 10: Besitzer = COBY\Donald
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Re: Undo/Redo
I would hope that my system doesn't suddenly start speaking German!admin wrote: Then you should see something like this:
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14:52:33.826 >> rd 0: Name = StdAfx.h 14:52:33.826 >> rd 1: Ursprung = E:\VB-Don\TestFiles\Temp\Aa231xy\a 14:52:33.826 >> rd 2: Löschdatum = 24.10.2009 16:50 14:52:33.826 >> rd 3: Größe = 4 KB 14:52:33.826 >> rd 4: Typ = H-Datei
It just struck me as funny...I know what you meant anyway..
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Re: Undo/Redo
Sorry, I know that vowels with 2 dots flying overhead look very frightening to Americans. Relax, they are usually harmless.j_c_hallgren wrote:I would hope that my system doesn't suddenly start speaking German!admin wrote: Then you should see something like this:
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14:52:33.826 >> rd 0: Name = StdAfx.h 14:52:33.826 >> rd 1: Ursprung = E:\VB-Don\TestFiles\Temp\Aa231xy\a 14:52:33.826 >> rd 2: Löschdatum = 24.10.2009 16:50 14:52:33.826 >> rd 3: Größe = 4 KB 14:52:33.826 >> rd 4: Typ = H-Datei
It just struck me as funny...I know what you meant anyway..
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Re: Undo/Redo
So, did anybody try the debuglog? Or are there questions as to how to use it?
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Re: Undo/Redo
Well, you said twice "next" vers and I'd not seen any indication that was ready/available...you didn't post here or in beta...so how was I to know? Did you just hotfix replace the last beta?admin wrote:So, did anybody try the debuglog? Or are there questions as to how to use it?
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Re: Undo/Redo
Hmmm, looks like I forgot to update that thread... something must have distracted me, probably the miserable performance of our local football club, argh.j_c_hallgren wrote:Well, you said twice "next" vers and I'd not seen any indication that was ready/available...you didn't post here or in beta...so how was I to know? Did you just hotfix replace the last beta?admin wrote:So, did anybody try the debuglog? Or are there questions as to how to use it?
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Re: Undo/Redo
On Vista x64:
Delete:
After Undo Failed:
That was with a folder in case you couldn't tell.
Here it is with a file:
Delete:
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21:28:02.134 >> 4: Z:\New Folder-01¿
21:28:02.179 >> SHCNE_MKDIR
21:28:02.179 >> SHCNE_MKDIR: Z:\$RECYCLE.BIN\S-1-5-21-1228544555-2450258989-2244176320-1000\$RXJOFIF | $RXJOFIF | |
21:28:02.180 >> SHCNE_RMDIR
21:28:02.180 >> SHCNE_RMDIR: Z:\New Folder-01 | New Folder-01 | |
21:28:02.180 >> SHCNE_MKDIR
21:28:02.180 >> SHCNE_MKDIR: Z:\$RECYCLE.BIN\S-1-5-21-1228544555-2450258989-2244176320-1000\$RXJOFIF | $RXJOFIF | |
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21:28:25.782 >> rd 0: Name = New Folder-01
21:28:25.782 >> rd 1: Original Location = Z:\
21:28:25.782 >> rd 2: Date Deleted = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:28 PM
21:28:25.783 >> rd 3: Size = 0 bytes
21:28:25.783 >> rd 4: Type = File Folder
21:28:25.783 >> rd 5: Date modified = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM
21:28:25.783 >> rd 6: Date created = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM
21:28:25.783 >> rd 7: Date accessed = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM
21:28:25.783 >> rd 8: Attributes =
21:28:25.783 >> rd 9: Offline status =
21:28:25.783 >> rd 10: Offline availability =
That was with a folder in case you couldn't tell.
Here it is with a file:
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After New:
21:40:19.254 >> 16: Z:\
After Delete:
21:40:20.340 >> 4: Z:\20091024174018.txt¿
21:40:20.365 >> SHCNE_DELETE
21:40:20.365 >> SHCNE_DELETE: Z:\20091024174018.txt | 20091024174018.txt | |
After Undo:
21:40:20.370 >> rd 0: Name = 20091024174018.txt
21:40:20.370 >> rd 1: Original Location = Z:\
21:40:20.370 >> rd 2: Date Deleted = 10/24/2009 5:40 PM
21:40:20.370 >> rd 3: Size = 0 bytes
21:40:20.370 >> rd 4: Type = Text Document
21:40:20.370 >> rd 5: Date modified = 10/24/2009 5:40 PM
21:40:20.370 >> rd 6: Date created = 10/24/2009 5:40 PM
21:40:20.370 >> rd 7: Date accessed = 10/24/2009 5:40 PM
21:40:20.370 >> rd 8: Attributes = A
21:40:20.370 >> rd 9: Offline status =
21:40:20.370 >> rd 10: Offline availability =
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Re: Undo/Redo
Here's what I got:
And after a delete of that file:
So I'm not seeing any cryptic "Dx####.jpg" stuff on W2K...
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22:51:23.855 >> rd 0: Name = laportefamily.jpg
22:51:23.855 >> rd 1: Original Location = C:\DOWNLOADS
22:51:23.855 >> rd 2: Date Deleted = 10/24/2009 06:51 PM
22:51:23.855 >> rd 3: Type =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 4: Size = 128 KB
22:51:23.855 >> rd 5: =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 6: =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 7: =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 8: =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 9: =
22:51:23.855 >> rd 10: =
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23:05:20.949 >> 4: C:\DOWNLOADS\laportefamily.jpg¿
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Re: Undo/Redo
On my Win 7, if it makes any difference, is what I get:
Once deleted
Trying Undo
Once deleted
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09:41:04.581 >> 4: D:\Video\TempBurn\New Textfile.txt¿
09:41:04.608 >> SHCNE_DELETE
09:41:04.608 >> SHCNE_DELETE: D:\Video\TempBurn\New Textfile.txt | New Textfile.txt | |
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09:42:27.430 >> rd 0: Name = New Textfile.txt
09:42:27.430 >> rd 1: Original Location = D:\Video\TempBurn
09:42:27.430 >> rd 2: Date Deleted = 25/10/2009 9:41 AM
09:42:27.430 >> rd 3: Size = 0 bytes
09:42:27.430 >> rd 4: Item type = Text Document
09:42:27.430 >> rd 5: Date modified = 25/10/2009 9:40 AM
09:42:27.430 >> rd 6: Date created = 25/10/2009 9:40 AM
09:42:27.430 >> rd 7: Date accessed = 25/10/2009 9:40 AM
09:42:27.430 >> rd 8: Attributes = A
09:42:27.430 >> rd 9: Offline status =
09:42:27.430 >> rd 10: Offline availability =
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Re: Undo/Redo
On my XP SP3:
After successful Undo:
Funny though, I can't see any difference in the logs contents
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12:19:52.546 >> 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt¿
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt | New Textfile_01.txt | C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt | Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> mod 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt|C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt | New Textfile_01.txt | C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt | Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> mod 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt|C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt
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12:19:52.546 >> 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt¿
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt | New Textfile_01.txt | C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt | Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> mod 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt|C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE
12:19:52.546 >> SHCNE_DELETE: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt | New Textfile_01.txt | C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt | Dc52.txt
12:19:52.546 >> mod 4: C:\TEMP\New Textfile_01.txt|C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-4269340281-4223954186-2632510487-1005\Dc52.txt
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Re: Undo/Redo
I'm surprised about these question marks in the dates. Are these artifacts of the forum software or do you see them in the original debug log?TheQwerty wrote: After Undo Failed:Code: Select all
21:28:25.782 >> rd 0: Name = New Folder-01 21:28:25.782 >> rd 1: Original Location = Z:\ 21:28:25.782 >> rd 2: Date Deleted = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:28 PM 21:28:25.783 >> rd 3: Size = 0 bytes 21:28:25.783 >> rd 4: Type = File Folder 21:28:25.783 >> rd 5: Date modified = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM 21:28:25.783 >> rd 6: Date created = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM 21:28:25.783 >> rd 7: Date accessed = ?10/?24/?2009 ??5:27 PM 21:28:25.783 >> rd 8: Attributes = 21:28:25.783 >> rd 9: Offline status = 21:28:25.783 >> rd 10: Offline availability =
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